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Yep they do sniff. AS you get better at detachment the sniffing becomes much more intense and often. Just keep at it.


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Her nose must be plugged or something.

No contact so far this morning.


1/6/18-BD OM1
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Got two text messages this morning not long after I posted the above message. One of an overly enthusiastic night of cleaning. The other informing me of what was done to the house as far as cleaning went. Gave the standard short answers.

I see W tonight at the house since house cleaning needs to be done.


1/6/18-BD OM1
2/18-W meets OM2
4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
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Just curious, as I continue this, what behaviors should I expect W to exhibit as I continue this? There are temptations to respond at times to either non-questioning texts or call her to "check in". Not that I have done that stuff. Just wondering what to expect as I dig my heels in.


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4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
7/18-IHS Ends
4/19-WW moves out
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Just stood up for myself in front of W, Since D4 and I are going camping this weekend, she asked whether we should switch vehicles. I said we can but under three conditions:

1. W's cannot drive my car.
2. W's cannot smoke in it (nor can anyone else)
3. W cannot take car to OM's place.

W said that she wasn't planning on taking it to OM's place then quickly asked why. I said "I just don't want the car to go to OM's place." and left it at that. She said "Fine, just take your own car." I said, very calmly, "Ok, I will." And she left to go run errands.

That was rough, but I stood my ground.


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4/18-W intros D4 to OM2
5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
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Meant to say W’s FRIEND. W's Friend got popped for a DWI and took a car that I sold to her (that she still owes me payments on) and totaled it while she was under the influence. I bailed her out (NGS symptom) and she owes me a few thousand.

Drawing the line there.

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5/18-“Romance ends"
7/18-DB start
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So...progress? smile


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Little update:

W is packing my clothes and car for camping trip this weekend (me and D4). No expectations. Work was giving tickets away to concert. Grabbed one and asked her if she wanted to take it. She asked if there were any more. I said I can try to get another ticket. Then she backed off (I didn't think I was pursuing, but maybe I was?) and said I should go.

And I think I'll go.

Otherwise, she's sniffing and continuing to do small things. Making small talk. Small progress?


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Would love some feedback...please.


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Hi Pain,

here's my thoughts. When recovering from NGS, we sometimes go over the top. I don't think you were mean, but you (and me too) aren't there yet. It is good to draw the line and say the person who owes you money can't use your vehicle.

Get an extra ticket just in case and you can throw it out there - or not. Maybe leave them laying out as a reminder. When is the concert? Not this weekend, right? (b/c they're going camping?)

Your W is still interested. You said "her nose is plugged", then a couple hours later...boom! Unplugged.


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