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Jpeg #2627511 11/30/15 02:09 AM
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Jpeg, if you want to take a road trip.......

Dammit, our wedding song was an Elton John song.

But then again so was a very memorable moment with my exbf. So H does not own my Elton memories!



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Mu, I was once told that a gift should reflect where your relationship is, not where you want it to be. My r is gone, even though I want a happy m, so I am getting her nothing.


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mutatio #2627515 11/30/15 02:15 AM
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Mutatio - do you make homemade gifts? what kind of gifts do you make?
I think if she said not to then don't. It makes the decision easy for you


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Jpeg #2627540 11/30/15 04:10 AM
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Jpeg, I've become bitter thinking of the things I've made, the time I've spent, the effort I put forth and for what? To hear don't make me anything else. If I am making these things for her out of love I feel for her and she says that. What does that mean? The way I feel right now I want to gather it all up and throw it away. I made wood and metal chachkies, picture frames, wooden sculpture, metal wall art and outdoor metal sculpture. I bought a outdoor swing bed with beautiful cushions and hung it from a large sycamore tree in our yard.I then planted flower beds all around it. She has no interest in any of it or me I guess.

I don't want to give her a gift. I want to take them all away.



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mutatio #2627580 11/30/15 01:04 PM
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Mutatio don't be bitter- be better! Keep making your gifts but for your kids. My dad was a carver and some of my most cherished things are the various carvings I have from him (loons and figurines, candle sticks and bowls- things like that). Theses are things our kids will remember you by and pass down for generations. What amazing gifts to give!!! Make them for your children and they will be cherished


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Jpeg #2627586 11/30/15 01:26 PM
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Thank you Jpeg. I feel better now and I will follow your advice. I was felling sorry for myself and vented. I wear my heart on my sleeve.

I don't understand how your husband or any of the husbands could treat their wifes so disgracefully. A women that loves you, wants to work to save the marriage, what a gift. Jpeg please remember its not you, it's him. You are a beautiful soul and deserve better then this.

Again thank you for the support.



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mutatio #2627609 11/30/15 03:30 PM
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Gifts are tough and each situation varies.

For me gifts are for giving so it is the giver who decides. I have struggled this year each occasion to decide if I wanted to give something. So far I have always wanted to so I did.

Christmas may be the first time I decide not to. I don't like my W too much lately though I love her a lot.

Best wishes


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M 14 years
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Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
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roist #2627617 11/30/15 04:21 PM
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Thanks for sharing roiste. I am on the fence but leaning towards no gift. If I'm not feeling giving I will not give. I must remain true to myself.



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mutatio #2627631 11/30/15 05:29 PM
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Hi Bud

I'll put it like this. Your workplace has fired you; you're surplus to requirements. Would you send them a Christmas card/gift? It's gonna be hard. You guys in the US do Thanksgiving as well as Christmas/New Year, so it's another heartache for you to fall in to.

Seriously, the action of not giving her a gift will weigh more on her mind than yours.

I don't post often on your thread as you're doing well. I do read though. Keep going.


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I forgot to mention yesterday I have be sober 7 years or

220,838,400 seconds or

3,680,640 minutes or

61,344 hours or

2556 days or

365 weeks and 1 day

I am proud of myself smile



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