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#2387513 09/22/13 02:03 PM
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Old thread hit 19 pages, figured it was probably about done.

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2379016#Post2379016

I ended that post done. Ready to quit last night. W had texted me awesome pics of the step-kids, and joked and teased with me. It was a great exchange and I messed it up by going into relationship talk and she immediately clammed up. She initiated the contact, kept the conversation going, and I believe it's those types of little steps that are gonna bring her back. But if I keep taking it into R talk, she's going to stop those.

I believe 100% she doesn't want divorce; she won't even say it herself. She's backing into because she sees no other option but being forced to stay in a relationship that she is scared we'll mess up, even though she'll readily admit she loves me, and not the ILYB kind of love.

I told her I had filed a continuance on our divorce because I wasn't getting any response from her - she had refused to consider a continuance to give us more time. When I told her, I cringed expecting the backlash, but instead I just got "Ok". Tells me that she's in no rush...

I'm so tired of the back and forth, and it's only been a month since I signed back on here! It's revealed to me that my patience is sorely lacking, and I need to man up. That's why this new thread is called "Digging In".

Great article I found from NY Times - woman who did divorce busting and didn't even know it! Her technique was a little different. smile
http://lists101.his.com/pipermail/smartmarriages/2009-August/004030.html

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Whew, W texted me more pictures this morning, and joked around. Luckily, I just kept it light, and let her send the last text. Live and learn...

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Glad you're still here Jon. From other posts on this forum it seems that some have figured out how to keep DBing while getting off the emotional roller coaster. I am not there yet. But the support here does help. Even if you can't control your emotions, you can control your actions, I know you can! Do what works!


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Love the article Jon. Nice she had the foresight to be calm and cool in the very beginning, something so many of us wish we had upfront. I loved her responses.


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Yep, I have been re-reading it over and over - trying to almost memorize. I have been responding too emotionally; forcing myself on the roller coaster. The last week of being almost dark helped clear my head immensely.

This morning, W called me three times; I waited 20 minutes then called her back as I was going into work so it'd have to be a short conversation. Apparently she had texted me, and my cell provider is having an issue, and they didn't come through. She then said she had to go because she was at work, so sort of a weird convo. Didn't even tell me what the texts were for. Oh well, I got work to do!

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Jon this is difficult. We talk about the WAS being on an emotional roller coaster and their "script," but we do the same, we're up and down, we all say the same things in the beginning. Work on you for awhile, let her do whatever she needs to do right now. Go dark, really, because that's the space you need to figure yourself out. That doesn't mean you don't respond to texts or questions, you just do it in as few words as possible.

You're on her roller coaster because you react from an emotional place to everything she does or says. You mindread a lot, work on that for the next week or so. Every time you start to make up a story in your mind about what she's doing or what her words or actions mean, stop it. It's sounds simple but it's not however, it can be done. You have to commit to doing it.


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Thanks bug, I'm getting there!

So W dropped off the updated dissolution paperwork today. We did talk a little bit about R. It's so weird to me that she still says she loves me, says she wants to be in a happy marriage, says she knows divorce is wrong - but still pressing divorce.

I did have my attorney file a blanket denial to her case - this will actually extend things by quite awhile.

This is a little mindreading, but I have waited a couple of weeks to observe: I really think W is starting to lose her standing - the theme she has had was that I was all to blame and I'm a bad guy, you know the script. She even said for like two months that just because I was "nice" now didn't change things - but I think she's realizing that things are permanently different. So I think she is pushing the divorce before she realizes that she has nothing to stand on, and really has to look hard at herself. End mindreading. smile

She even said today, "If we get back together, then we'll need to change some things with the kids." I told her, "I know you're worried about that, but that's months down the road, let's just worry about what we can handle today. If we try to figure it out all right now, we'll just drive ourselves crazy."

Dunno, weird place right now.

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You talked about "if" you get back together???

You've been apart over a month and you still haven't been dark one bit. smile


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She meant that "if" as in reconciled...

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Yes that's how I understood it.

Part of being dark is being mysterious and being disinterested in her game. By having that conversation you've confirmed to her that you are still on her hook and that she has some power over you.

If you have to have a conversation, just seem distant and somewhat bored, keep it short and just business.


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Together: 18
M: 15
D: 8 yrs old
ILYBNILWY: March 2011
She Filed for D: August 2011
She moved out: Sept 1, 2011
Reconciled: May 2012
Divorce Case dropped: July 2012
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