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Originally Posted By: Lostforwords
Lack of perception....people only see what they want without wanting to understand. I feel rather confident in stating that a doormat doesn't know that it is a doormat....but an MLC LBS goes through actions knowingly. So the LBS is knowingly accepting the path they choose unlike the doormat that doesn't realize it is a doormat.

"Humans will never perceive reality....it is impossible....because it is bent by their perception"




You should drink and post more often. This is a very insightful observation.

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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans
Why are some of the tactics in dealing with MLC considered being a doormat?


I believe it is all perception. In an aggressive society, many people live believing that if you do not "stand up for yourself" that you are a doormat. However, in choosing to live your own life, be responsible for your own actions, exhibiting self control instead of going off half cocked because of some injustice or wallowing in a pit of self pity, while your MLCer lives life, you ARE standing up for yourself.

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Why does the MLC LBS suggested to go dark or dim, instead of confronting the MLCer?


This is actually, IMO, a form of self protection as well as a boundary. It is not putting yourself in a position to have all sorts of crazy, cruel, unnecessary words thrown at you, if you can avoid it. And it is stating that that is not behavior that you will tolerate from your MLCer. If they wish to talk like adults, then the door is still open for that to happen.



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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans

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Why are some of the tactics in dealing with MLC considered being a doormat?


Wow, there are some really good answers here, all of which are valid.....

So I guess my challenge would be to try to sum up my answer in ten words or less.....

I think I can state mine in......One.


PRIDE.....






Pride....hmmm...

Pride is the great equalizer, and paralyzes most people into making decisions that they ordinarily would not make...

Pride is what stands in the way of most possible reconciliations.....

There is a reason that it is one of the Seven Deadly Sins....

Just my opinion, there is no clear concrete answer that "one size fits all" here.

Just as each MLC is individual....so are our reasons for each and every action....

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Self-sacrifice is not a popular concept in our world. Stories of faithfulness in the face of rejection or even just lack of something in return make the news because it's so rare these days.


Standing for a marriage that is in distress, particularly when one spouse seems to have wigged out is looked down upon by many as being enabling or being that doormat. Few recognize the honor in remaining true to your vows until the bitter end. Few have the stomach to truly endure the "worse" in "for better or worse."



If MLC is truly a psychological trauma born of hidden and unresolved wounds...if it truly is a crazy journey of the soul that must be navigated...then there is at least a part of the ridiculous behavior that is simply a part of their wicked journey. There is incredible inner anguish, both from pain and from emptiness. This anguish thrusts the MLC'er forward to remove things that have potentially brought the pain, and to grasp for things that will soothe the pain.



In that light, a left behind spouse honors their marriage and their spouse by remaining their rock - that lighthouse that can lead the other home one day.



But damned if you don't go through some crap along the way.



Most people just aren't in to that kind of crap.



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In 40 minutes I am out of here.

Gone until Next Friday.

I hope you all have a wonderful week. Please continue to post, some damn good insights and reasons.

The reason for the question(s) is there are alot of new people from different parts of the boards. And I was hoping and thankful for the wise posts as to the differences.

Please let it continue.

For the record; I will be here:

http://www.acabinonthecliff.com/lodging.html

With my wife.



No kids.


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Jack the cabin looks great. Enjoy your weekend.

This was a great idea for a thread.


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That looks like a great place to relax!

It is good to get out of the big city to the quaint village.

Have fun.

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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans

For the record; I will be here:

http://www.acabinonthecliff.com/lodging.html



BAD idea Bro...

NOT the weekend at the cabin, but advertising it....????


There are 586,412 square miles in Alaska that AmyC would have to search.....


NOW....she knows exactly where you are.....


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Thank you for this thread. I feel more and more sure that H is in a MLC, and what I'm reading here reinforces my confidence in the path that I'm on. I think I need to spend more reading reading here in MLC land smile


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Xcellent responses, and I can relate to most all of them being correct.
Great ? Jack3beans!

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