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Card29 #2498922 10/21/14 02:18 AM
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This is a necessary part of the experience. The only way out is through.


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Sep 4/14; Agreed to D 1/15

She believed she could, so she did.
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I'm renouncing my statement that she is coming out of her fog. she has somehow convinced herself that:

A.) it is okay to date others while you are married, even if it's separated
B.) I was okay with said dating

She was actually surprised that I took issue with that. What?? We are Christians, I saved my bleeping virginity for her, we pray with D2 every night. Where does an open marriage fit into that???


Me 38, WAW 30
D11 (former marriage)
S2
T 8 years
M 3 years
BD 8/20/23
S 8/20/23
Card29 #2498926 10/21/14 02:28 AM
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I'm sorry you're having such a rough night. I wish I could give you a hug.

Did your W have any issue with post-partum depression?


Me42, H40
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A revealed: 7/13
Sep 4/14; Agreed to D 1/15

She believed she could, so she did.
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I'm going to need help figuring out exactly what to say regarding this open M thing. I am 100% not okay with it. I'm not okay with her dating and I'm not okay with her being open to dating. So I've figured out what Card29 is okay with and what he's not. What about this for a boundary: NC until WAW is not open to dating others.

It seems hopeless to put that boundary out there. I was prepared for some chemically charged A with a particular OM. There is a typical lifespan (6 months to 1 year). But casually looking for another R? That doesn't fit any blueprint I've seen.


Me 38, WAW 30
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M 3 years
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S 8/20/23
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Originally Posted By: Maybell
I'm sorry you're having such a rough night. I wish I could give you a hug.

Did your W have any issue with post-partum depression?
not so much. But she's had depression for so long it's hard to tell or remember. She was more relieved that the pregnancy was over. She was nauseous 24 hrs a day for the first 8 months


Me 38, WAW 30
D11 (former marriage)
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T 8 years
M 3 years
BD 8/20/23
S 8/20/23
Card29 #2498937 10/21/14 02:50 AM
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As im settling down, I know i wasn't her only problem. She apparently thinks that getting rid of me will solve her problems, and it won't. She was depressed when I met her. Maybe she needs even more time to realize this? What am I supposed to do, let her date around, fall in love, let those chemicals dwindle and then she might realize that there is still emptiness inside of her?

Right now I am at my lowest point of hope for my M. IF she ever snaps out of this, I feel like it could be years down the road.

Maybell I would love a hug tonight. the only people I could get one from tonight (close family), though, would be filled with anger if they knew why I was so upset (WAW looking for a date).


Me 38, WAW 30
D11 (former marriage)
S2
T 8 years
M 3 years
BD 8/20/23
S 8/20/23
Card29 #2498940 10/21/14 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Card29
I'm renouncing my statement that she is coming out of her fog. she has somehow convinced herself that:

A.) it is okay to date others while you are married, even if it's separated
B.) I was okay with said dating

She was actually surprised that I took issue with that. What?? We are Christians, I saved my bleeping virginity for her, we pray with D2 every night.

OK, good. I was going to point out that I actually thought the fog was getting thicker but you caught it yourself.

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Where does an open marriage fit into that???


It's clearly stated in 2 Trollups 3:23
I hear ya man, my wife too. They have lost their minds! My tells me she's going to start dating and then posts 25 different scripture and God related memes on FB. Unreal.


Me 47 - W 35
M 9 - T 10
2 Daughters - 7 & 9
Discovery of EA- 8/4/14
S - 8/5/15
D mentioned - 9/11/14
R & Piecing - 3/17/15
Regard one another as more important than yourselves.
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Originally Posted By: Maybell
I'm sorry you're having such a rough night. I wish I could give you a hug.

Did your W have any issue with post-partum depression?


Maybell, my wife suffered post-partum horribly. Where you going with this?


Me 47 - W 35
M 9 - T 10
2 Daughters - 7 & 9
Discovery of EA- 8/4/14
S - 8/5/15
D mentioned - 9/11/14
R & Piecing - 3/17/15
Regard one another as more important than yourselves.
- Philippians 2:3
Jefe #2498944 10/21/14 02:58 AM
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And, sorry card. I'm in a very agitated mood and my sarcasm is coming out thick and heavy. Not meaning to be rude.


Me 47 - W 35
M 9 - T 10
2 Daughters - 7 & 9
Discovery of EA- 8/4/14
S - 8/5/15
D mentioned - 9/11/14
R & Piecing - 3/17/15
Regard one another as more important than yourselves.
- Philippians 2:3
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How about this for a boundary statement:

"I'm not sure who or what has convinced you that it's okay to have an affair if you are separated. I disagree completely with that sentiment. I believe it is very disrespectful and unproductive. Until you are unwilling to date other men, I will have no direct contact with you, by any means and for any reason other than an emergency with D2. Any house decisions or communication shall be relayed through the realtor. We can sit down now and set the D2 calendar through the end of the year. If any changes need to be made, we will communicate them through (insert neutral intermediary). We can set the calendar for January and February through the intermediary (submit proposals, etc). All D2 handoffs will be at daycare, at church or at grandma's house, preferably with only one of us present."


Me 38, WAW 30
D11 (former marriage)
S2
T 8 years
M 3 years
BD 8/20/23
S 8/20/23
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