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Originally Posted By: Gypsy
Hey Antlers..

I was told in a divorce kids model after their parents. I tried to do the best job I could with my explanation.

"You don't hold onto to someone who doesn't want to be there." Their dad had to want to be with us.

Just try your best. Go for counseling. Get in the best possible place to make good decisions.

"The kids will figure it out."
Be consistent. Live your ideals. Actions speak louder than words.

Read The Four Agreements. Don't make assumptions, don't take things personally, be impeccable with your word, always try your best. I filter my emotions through those agreements. Getting rid of the crap distills the message.

You are their father. Have been. Always will be.


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Hi Gypsy.

I'm picking up the book tonight after work. Been reading about it on the net and it looks uplifting. Thanks for the recommendation.

Your post is chock full of sound wisdom and good advice...and truths. Thank You.


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Good choice Ant, you can surely find some good in that book.

Putting those into practice will be key.

For me, the best help has been 'Don't take things personally' I use it over and over, just saying those words at times when I start to dwell on STBXW or anything else that is going on.

What my STBXW is doing is not about me, it is about her and her Journey.

Not taking it personally allows me to focus again back to myself and what my d9 needs with me.

I think everyone needs to find there 'thing' or 'saying' that helps trigger or remove you from negative thought cycles.

Peace brother.


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I think I'm going to pick that up myself...Looks like a good book...

3. Don't Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

This fits me to a T, I make assumptions all the time, not just with EX but at work too...


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Hey iwantittowork.

Agreed. Taking things personally is actually selfish because you make the assumption that everything is about you! The whole darn world can think whatever they want about you, and if you don't take it personally you're immune.


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Hey volleydog.

Yeah, assumptions often don't reflect reality at all. And assumptions can cause us to have thoughts that weaken us.


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Hope things are going well for you antlers. I am in the same point as you, tried to give my W time and "space", did everything I could to save the marriage, she just didnt want to take the time and make it work.

Do you have a sitch summary anywhere?


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antlers, the part about your wife whispering to the kids about your 'fitness to parent', and forbidding counseling for them, is not healthy. This is the exact thing that the Judge in our case warned us both not to do.
She is making a big mistake.
But enough about her, how do you choose to respond?
Be the better choice. Kids have pretty good BS radar. While Co-Dependent tactics may work a while (lying, using kids to do the grown-ups' work, avoidance) eventually it gets harder and harder to keep all the balls in the air.
Me, I'm using the Patience method, with a side order of Praying for Him to Crash and Burn approach.
I trust that God is watching out for me and my kids (and even my lousy STBX).


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More legal stuff yesterday and today. The legal stuff is scary. It's intimidating and uncomfortable.


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Acknowledge the icky feeling, and charge ahead.
The opposite of FEAR is FAITH.

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The legal stuff is scary. It's intimidating and uncomfortable.


I thought the same thing so I did my own research, that helped a lot.


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T: 17 years
M: 15 years
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D final 11/10/2009

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