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Originally Posted By: givingitmyall

Antlers, I picked up a book of Emerson's collected works. But, I can't find the poem you posted about yesterday on my other thread.


It's not a poem GIMA, it's an excerpt from his essay on Self-Reliance. I'm sure that Self-Reliance will be in the book you bought. The entire essay is chock full of stuff as good as the excerpt that I posted to you! Enjoy!


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.
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Originally Posted By: givingitmyall

Antlers, I picked up a book of Emerson's collected works. But, I can't find the poem you posted about yesterday on my other thread.


It's not a poem GIMA, it's an excerpt from his essay on Self-Reliance. I'm sure that Self-Reliance will be in the book you bought. The entire essay is chock full of stuff as good as the excerpt that I posted to you! Enjoy!



Thanks. I actually found the essay online after posting previously.


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Morning. I have been thinking about some things my friends have told me over the past few days. Many of them believe my W is in some form of a MLC, and they may be right. It would explain quite a bit about the ease with which she has cast the M, and our family, aside. I had thought that MLC involves some destructive behaviors, such as large item purchases or an A. The large item purchase is not present in mine, and I don't think there is an A.

But, my W is nearing 40 and is going through the "change" early, or so she has told me.

So, if a MLC of some flavor is going on, then, as my friends have told me, I shouldn't beat myself up over things I have done in the past, whether they be mistakes I have made or things my W has told me I did wrong or the ways I "hurt her." I'm not perfect by any means, but I don't see that anything I have done justifies D. Not even close.

And the point of saying all this is to show how I am coming to terms with my W's decision to D me. I am beginning to understand that she was going to D no matter what. Maybe she felt unfulfilled or maybe she just began wondering "Is this all there is to life/M?" And once she started down that path, there was no turning back for her. To her, something better lay ahead, something that did not involve me - the grass must be greener over there. I can see it, smell it, almost touch it and it looks wonderful.

And, a MLC would explain the absolute zero impact my changes have had upon my W. In the end, they simply didn't matter b/c, in reality, they never mattered.

I understand that my W sees greener pastures without me and our intact family. That hurts to say, but I know it's true. And no less painful are the statements my W has made to me about how I was a bad H (just like the statements many of your WAS's have made to the LBS's here) that are simply not true, but which she must believe to justify her actions to herself (see Cognitive Dissonance) and/or assuage her guilt. The discussion yesterday with my L brought all of those statements, memories and pain back to the surface.

So, I am realizing that MY behavior has less and less to do with my W's decision to proceed with a D and seek her happiness somewhere else. And while that does not ease the hurt for me, there is some comfort in knowing the majority (maybe even all) of the reason she is leaving me lies with, and IN, HER.

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Originally Posted By: givingitmyall
So, I am realizing that MY behavior has less and less to do with my W's decision to proceed with a D and seek her happiness somewhere else. And while that does not ease the hurt for me, there is some comfort in knowing the majority (maybe even all) of the reason she is leaving me lies with, and IN, HER.


GIMA, and that is the first step to clearing your mind up a bit. You've told her you didn't want to D and she made the decision so you can move forward now. How is everything else going?

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Originally Posted By: soleil
Originally Posted By: givingitmyall
So, I am realizing that MY behavior has less and less to do with my W's decision to proceed with a D and seek her happiness somewhere else. And while that does not ease the hurt for me, there is some comfort in knowing the majority (maybe even all) of the reason she is leaving me lies with, and IN, HER.


GIMA, and that is the first step to clearing your mind up a bit. You've told her you didn't want to D and she made the decision so you can move forward now. How is everything else going?


Sol,

Everything else is sputtering along. I am handling it, but this week has been tough. I can recognize my emotions for what they are, and I know I will be ok with time. But, even by recognizing the cycle of emotions, that does NOT get you a free pass to bypass them. If you see a "get out of hurt free" card (like a "get out of jail free" card in Monopoly), send it my way! laugh


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No problem, GIMA. Will do. In the meantime I am sending you a big hug.

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No problem, GIMA. Will do. In the meantime I am sending you a big hug.


Thanks.


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Ok i didn't exactly read all 45 page or your 3353 posts, but you have been around long enough. What you do for a WAS or MLC is not that much different. Jack gave you the major differences between the 2 boards. I am not an expert on the newcomers board, in fact some of the advice kind of leaves me scratching my head but basically you need to let your W go and do all the DB'ing stuff. It is her crisis don't make it yours. I see you are going to start a thread over there and I am sure we can give out more advice as we go along. Maybe you can even teach me a thing or two.


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Thanks OP. I hurriedly started a thread in MLC. And I did NOT try to include everything.

I have let go and have accepted this is her problem.


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Originally Posted By: givingitmyall


I have let go and have accepted this is her problem.


One of the smartest things you've posted. One of the hardest things to accept is that we have no control over someone else. Ironically, the sooner we accept that the sooner the other person has to take responsibility for themselves.


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