No not at all! So after googling it, for depression, he is taking.. Flaxseed Oil (important to get Omega 3 and 6), B vitamins (important to get B12 and particularly Folate/Folic Acid or B9), Selenium (or found in Brazil nuts, so he is eating 6 a day instead) and 5HTP, which is an amino acid that the body needs to produce Serotonin - hence it being effective for depression: http://www.depression-guide.com/5htp.htm
Although, I need to do more reading as it seems he shouldnt have too much B6 with it, as the liver excretes it otherwise. Tests have shown it to be effective as ADs where the person is AD resistant (as bf was).
Today he is out on a work, he plans to be out all evening..this is the same one as last year where he left early at 7 and met me until 1am. He told me this morning, he didnt tell Helen he was meeting me lat year. He said it with a cheeky face, like, she didnt know, he got away with meeting me on the sly. I told him he was sneaky. It upset me after to think, so you are proud you did that.. which at that time means you were putting her and your R with her above me (as it was the only time he met me in that 6 month period). But, it is what it is, or was.
Wierdly, I work in the same organistation as Helen!! Same Directorate even! But in different sections and offices, thankfully. However, I saw her car at work before I was sure and today.. I juat crossed the road in front of her! I know her car from the photos and her dog, which was in the back. She didnt recognise me. it made my stomach flip over. I felt she looked quite attractive, although a bit un-cool. I just dashed an email off to bf telling him I had seen her and that I feel she is prettier than me. Oh dear! Oh well..
Well, it comes in different forms, I thikn the basic ingredient is tryptophan, but 5HTP is Hydroxytryptophan, which tryptophan is derived from. It seems you shouldnt have B6 with it. I got it from a good health shop here (regular chemists didnt have it). Its definetly made him sleepy because the one he has comes in a capsule with added Magnesium (also good for brains) and Valerian Root (a natural sleep remedy).
Theres loads of info on the UK Google on 5HTP? Sorry the St Johns Wort isnt working Mish, I thikn it doesnt often (it didnt for me, whereas Bach Flower Remedies did, years ago when I once had clinical depression with panic attacks). We didnt get it for bf as its expensive and seems to only work for some poeple!
You should definetly try Selenium though? 200 mg capsule, or 2-5 Brazil nuts daily xx
I'm going to do just that Ali. I just checked on it and it looks like GNC has it. If anyone is interested, it looks like the US distributor for it is Natrol.
I've read a few pages about it and it as drug interaction warnings and says not to take if you drink any alcohol. Eek. I wonder if my glass of wine or beer in the evening will have to be cut out. It would be worth it though if it works for me. Thanks for the info Ali!
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Hey Mish... yes there are alot of contradictions! Like too many brazil nuts a day or over 900mcg of Selenium is classed toxic and a handful of people got some fatal brain thing.. but 200mcg is fine. And yes, says you cant drink within 6 hours of taking 5HTP. BF is very committed to this, we were supposed to go for a drink Sunday night but he said "oh, but then I cant take my tablet!" so we didnt go!
I really need to do some more reading, but a high veg/protein/low carb diet is important too and the other vits and fishoils I mentioned are all for good brain chemistry to beat depression. We can post here and see how he and you get on !
So he replied.. it probably wasnt her, but she is NOT prettier than me and besides, I am beautiful on the inside as well as outside. So that was a good answer! If he could just cheer up a bit, he'd be perfect!
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Very interesting stuff! I too did the herbal remedies when I was feeling very depressed the first few months after the bomb. I might do them again this winter as I always find the lack of sunshine a bit depressing, combined with the latest emotions coming with the D finalizing.
Thanks for all the info!
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5HTP is not a licensed product in the UK which is why you can't get it from a regular pharmacy. You do need to be careful about interactions with any other prescribed meds you may be on when trying these things - but I am sure going to give the 5HTP a go!!!
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No problems Michelle! And Saffie, sorry, I meant highstreet Chemists didnt have it, I needed to go to a more specialist health store as its a bit obscure, being an aminoacid! No, its not a licensed drug, so you cant get it from the Pharmacist. I guess its classed as a foodstuff and not regulated, so whoever is reading - do alot of research and buy a reputable brand. And you definetly cant take it with ADs or SSSI's! Causes 'serotonin syndrome' being too much of it, which sounds like a good thing, but apparently it isnt!
Feel a bit funny today - its bonfire night (big deal to me)..2007, it came a few days after the bomb. He insisted we drove back home to tell EVERYONE it was over and drove me to my Mum's (to think he never even came in, after driving 250 miles and being SO close to my parents, beggars belief). Last year, he went alone with Helen. I found photos of her by the bonfire, wearing his wooley hat and a contented smile.
Eventhough its been going so well, I still struggle. I just emailed him to tell him I feel a wound today because of the past 2 years. He knows. I dont care occsassionally about his guilt. We spoke a bit last night and I said..but I went through so much..and he replied indignantly "What about what I went through!?". I was speechless at that!
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and he replied indignantly "What about what I went through!?". I was speechless at that!
True though.
You know he was going through his own personal hell at the same time you were. Granted, yours was directly caused by his but it doesn't make his any less, right?
At least he has admitted to being confused and 'out of his mind'. That is enormous.
Ali, I know this is probably going to sound callous, but IMO you need to stop bringing up the past pain...totally. It's nothing more than rehashing the same old stuff now and that is going to drive him further into depression. If he brings it up, talk about it. Just don't bring any of it up yourself anymore. Time to let it all go....completely.
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I dont care occsassionally about his guilt. We spoke a bit last night and I said..but I went through so much..and he replied indignantly "What about what I went through!?". I was speechless at that!
When you care about someone, you care about their feelings. And I know most of the time you do try to minimize his guilt. But Michelle is right, he went through his own side of hell, you both did. That experience can bond you together, or put you on opposing sides.
Most of the time, it seems to be bonding - you guys seem better than ever.
But sometimes, you put him into the position opposing you. There is still some lingering resentment in that statement.
I know it isn't easy, but you do need to let that go if you don't want it to poison your future. Just MHO.
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