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Mach1 #1793404 07/02/09 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hopeful in VA
uh oh - I'm really bad at this...is it on fb? I've tried google...or am I supposed to be waiting for more info.

BTW Coaching call today...Laurie thinks H is in more of an identity/MLC than WAH. GREAT!


I absolutely agree with Laurie.....


I wholeheartedly second that.


PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE CONQUER ALL THINGS.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

DBing and MLC take their toll....Please provide exact CHANGE.
-Jimbo
Mach1 #1793413 07/02/09 06:26 PM
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I figured it out...at least one part. I think the other part too.


Me 36, Him 33
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D to be final SOON I HOPE!
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Originally Posted By: Forrest Gump
"BTW Coaching call today...Laurie thinks H is in more of an identity/MLC than WAH. GREAT!"

I will give you this comment. MLC/Identity Crisis and the WAS share alot of the same "symptoms". The difference is usually the MLC/IC person will have more specific issues with themselves and attempt to "recreate" themselves. MLC/IC is also usually tied to age. Although some research has pointed out that people are experiencing MLC/IC are getting younger. In the end the advice to "win" will be the same. There is no reason to "define" what the issue may or may not be. Simply because it is the OP's issue to deal with. I may take some heat over that statement.. but.. there it is.


Giving no heat here- just a perspective from my own experiences.

From an action point of view, I totally agree- the advice to "win" will be the same. Where we might diverge in opinion is that, for me, being able to "define" my sitch as MLC/IC was extremely helpful as a coping mechanism, exactly because of what an MLC/IC is. It seems to me that, with a WAS, you are dealing with a reasonable individual that can use common sense. When a WAS walks away, you can rest assured that you most likely had a significant role in them leaving. With MLC/IC, that same reasoning capacity and common sense is not as apparent, or in some situations even absent. Because, as you say, the MLC/ICer has specific issues with themselves, I believe that it's entirely possible to be the absolute perfect spouse to them, and they will STILL find fault with SOMETHING in order to justify escaping the R.

I will be the first to admit that I was not the perfect spouse, but at the same time I don't feel I did anything bad enough to warrant my W acting and treating me the way she does, or seeking a D.

For me, the difference is being able to more readily forgive myself for my own shortcomings in the M, and recognizing that my W has a problem that is all her own....one that I can't "help" her with.... and that she would probably go through this whether I had met her or not.

That alone has brought me along farther than anything else in being able to stand.


PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE CONQUER ALL THINGS.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

DBing and MLC take their toll....Please provide exact CHANGE.
-Jimbo
Jimbo #1793424 07/02/09 06:38 PM
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I'm just curious, but what about my sitch makes you all agree so quickly?

Weird thing, H's friend from Bball calls me the other day & says - your H is acting really strange. He just sits at the games really quiet & doesn't joke around anymore.


Me 36, Him 33
M 11yrs, T 15yrs
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ILYBINILWY - 1/09
H moves out 10/09
D to be final SOON I HOPE!
Mach1 #1793426 07/02/09 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mach1
Jim,

How the heck did you know I stole your Green Stamps last weekend ?


Dammit !


Simple- I saw you hide them in the crates with all the guns you were abducting...


PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE CONQUER ALL THINGS.
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DBing and MLC take their toll....Please provide exact CHANGE.
-Jimbo
Done in VA #1793429 07/02/09 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hopeful in VA
I'm just curious, but what about my sitch makes you all agree so quickly?

Weird thing, H's friend from Bball calls me the other day & says - your H is acting really strange. He just sits at the games really quiet & doesn't joke around anymore.



just answered your own question.....

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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
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Jim,

How the heck did you know I stole your Green Stamps last weekend ?


Dammit !


Simple- I saw you hide them in the crates with all the guns you were abducting...




Jimm Beau.......dammit man.....you are like a hawk eye....

Mach1 #1793432 07/02/09 06:49 PM
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have you checked - did I find you? if not, you might have to find me...


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H moves out 10/09
D to be final SOON I HOPE!
Mach1 #1793440 07/02/09 06:57 PM
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Great now I'm guaranteed to have to deal w/an A. I think I prefer not to know.

This one's for you Forrest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKZdwhY5dZY


Me 36, Him 33
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ILYBINILWY - 1/09
H moves out 10/09
D to be final SOON I HOPE!
Done in VA #1793448 07/02/09 07:09 PM
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Nope......try another name, one that looks different from what you've seen.....

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