I Still Think It's Too Late (pt 2)

[1313]

Wow, the L sent the court response from the W today.

There is zero hope for this M that I can see.

She's so full of hate that she's inventing things - making up stories out of whole cloth. If you read this and only heard her side - you'd guess I was a complete monster.

Thing is - I have texts. I have emails. I have photos. I have videos. Is she so blinded with hate that she can't think that through? Is she believing her (rather dim) assistant on everything?

I see in the response she's asking for her domain - which I said I offered a couple of days ago. Is that why she's not answering? So she can tell the court I refused to give it to her?

Oh, and I beat the dog. And harass her, and move things around the house and leave the lights on. And break things.

It really is heart breaking to see this. I don't know if you can get in trouble for lying in these declarations, but I can prove so much of it wrong. The rest of course is a he-said she-said.

Regardless, there is so much damage done by looking at this - to call me enemy #1 is putting it mildly. So very sad.

[broke]

So sorry, 1313. I think all of that is justification for leaving. Take the high road. You know who you are. Keep your integrity - don't stoop to her level or believe anything she says. Keep working on being the best you can be. For you. I swear my mantra is "living a happy, fulfilled life is the best revenge". Now we all have to find the best way to do that.

[Cadet]

There is zero hope for this M that I can see.

Hope is not something you SEE.

Remember to believe nothing that is said and half of what you see.

It is something you have inside of you,
hope ends when YOU decide to end it.

STANDING is hard!

[1313]

Thanks guys - I'm just floored. This is probably the hardest day since the BD.

There is so much hate, so much vitriol, and so very many lies. I've spent hours typing responses - but there's about 10 paragraphs to ever accusation.

You're right Cadet - but wow. A couple of days ago I was starting to think - maybe. Granted, this "response" was written several days ago, but now I know why she hasn't answered my offer. She "demanded" it in the response, and doesn't know what to do when it's offered to her - free for the taking.

I had to take Mom to the doctor today, so I was out for a while, and then got back on typing my response. This has taken me out of the game, ruined my day and I've taken my eye off the ball. All exactly what she had in mind I'm sure.

broke: I've always said living well is the best revenge - but the W is set on making sure she drains it out of me. I can't allow that.

It's just hard to get down and fight at the level she's at and still think about reconciliation.

One day at a time. Man, what an ugly day today was.

[WillDo]

Hand in there. The other fact is lawyers get clients to paint an ugly picture to increase the hatred and pave to quicker results. That is mean!

[broke]

1313 - I hope today will be a better one for you! Hope you feel back on track.

[Thornton]

She needs to convince herself that she is free from guilt. So she demonizes you and tries to convince herself to believe it.

Im sorry 1313. I've seen this same thing happen in other sitches as well.

I think Tim is going through something similiar where his W has made him into a monster.

Rise above it as best you can.

[TimR]

I feel for ya, 1313. Yes the WW knows no limits to their underhandedness. This is hard enough without the lies and insults but for some reason they add that in as well. I do not remember Sandi explaining how they get so vicious but it does seem to go hand and hand with WW.

1313, I cannot give you any advice within the DB ideology. I can only tell you what I am going to do. I am going to refuse to stoop to WW's level and am going to take the high road. While I think I could drive the sh!t out of the low road, FB posts about her cheating, turning S against her etc, at the end of this I need to look at myself in the mirror and feel comfortable with who I am.

Please do not consider that me lying down and just taking whatever it is she decides to throw at me. No, I am going to protect myself and S but do it in the most honest and dignified way I can come up with. Years from now I want my S to ask me how did I keep calm and act with dignity and morals the same way I asked my father.

[1313]

Hi Everyone,
thanks for the kind words. It means a lot. I didn't sleep much at all last night - this just kept spinning around in my head.

No, it's not that I'm not going to stoop to this level - I can't. However, all I really need to do is tell the truth. Going through this again she's contradicted herself - and I have so much in the way of email and text to back up what I'm saying.

As I mentioned, I'm not even sure how much is legally relevant. I have half a mind to hand this thing to her parents. They wouldn't believe it possible, and we even laughed when I said "she'll probably say I beat the dog". Well, she did.

Unfortunately, I've been protective of her and that's going to stop. Now. I've never mentioned how much her drinking has bothered me, and how it's affected our lives. She may have stopped with her health kick, but old habits and all.

I'm not sure if the burden of proof is on her for anything either, it's one thing to throw wild accusations out there. I'm wondering just how do you break into your own home? And to say she's afraid for her life - and I'm doing things to cause mental anguish... She seems pretty capable of that on her own.

Tim, I know you've gotten pretty close to this kind of stuff, but I think we've really got something in common with another person pitching BS as well. I'm not sure how the assistant can be relevant, but I've got some pretty incriminating text messages from her if she is.

Oh well, today I grab some of the docs the lawyers want (still) and then try to forget this for at least a day. Unfortunately, I want access to the house to scan my painting - and I have no idea how to do that now. This just hit 11 on the weird-o-meter and broke the needle.

Maybe I could ask her parents if they'd set some time aside and ask the W for one of them to let me in. I'm not taking anything, and they'd say if I were moving things around, destroying things, leaving lights on etc. like the W claims.

[TimR]

1313 sorry you are going through this. We certainly have so much in common in our sitches it is uncanny and I feel sorry for anyone who has anything in common with me at this point. I wander how much of their actions are fueled by OM. At the points we are at however, I guess it really does not matter.

Like I said it is bad enough we are going through the dissolution of our Ms but to have to deal with the lies, anger and intentional actions to hurt us is just unfair.

I cannot give you any advise on going to her parents and talking to them. Obviously this is against the DB play book and I cannot advise you to do it. Ask yourself "what good will this do me in reaching my goals." I also think she would be furious if you did. Let me ask this way "besides making yourself feel better, what would it accomplish?"

With regard to the assistant playing a part in this, yes my MIL is also a conspirator. I have dropped that bag of bricks for now. My MIL does not know me, just as assistant does not know you. You can bet I screened shot the social media boards incase it becomes relevant at a later date. But as far as getting at her, you know F that, I am the bigger person and as much as I think she will find herself in the lowest ring of he11 in the future, she doesn't bother me. Miserable people are going to be miserable... that is enough karma for me.

I wish you the very best 1313. I know the pain and anger it causes, but we can make it through bc we must there is no choice.