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so then, really ll, from the depths of your self knowledge, what in the hell is keeping you there?

really ll, answer me truthfully

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and there tony is what makes no sense to me at all...a woman who's h wants to share things with her leaves? while I've got a h who I'll go anywhere with and do anything with even if they are not my interests and he chooses to exclude me?

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so then, really ll, from the depths of your self knowledge, what in the hell is keeping you there?

really ll, answer me truthfully

kitti




the kids!

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Nothing makes any sense LL! Yes stay for the kids!

"one day you die, and nobody gives a sh!t" That was what my friend told me when I asked him if he knew the meaning of life!


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Okay, then, if you are really doing it for the kids, shouldn't you be doing the best possible job you can? Not being all full of resentment and martydom over a football outing? After all - admit it - if other things in the R were right, the football game wouldn't be such a big deal. And, the male-bonding-over-sports thing - your H is not exactly unique in that.

What would happen if you quit reacting/nagging/fault-finding, and built a happy, joyfilled active life for yourself - you might be surprised, H just might want to join you there!

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Football season is coming to an end, what does H do with the rest of his time? It kind of sounds like Sunday's will be open for both of you at the end of this month...watcha going to plan either with H or just YOU. It's your turn LL.

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VEBT AWAY LL. That is what this BB is all about. One thing though. If your H left, you'd still have the issue of him not keeping his word to his kids.
If he has that trait, I doubt he'll change. Question is: Do you want to live with it? With him?
How long was your H gone before he moved back home?
I can relate, because I am frustrated with my H too, but for different reasons. He does put his kids first,I can't complain about that. I'm just tired of this wishy washy stuff.
I know your tired too LL. Rachael


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the kids

good answer, let me ask you this ll, are you willing to sacrifice ANYTHING for your kids? think about it before you answer

ANYTHING

would you go as far as lay down your life for your children?

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Okay, then, if you are really doing it for the kids, shouldn't you be doing the best possible job you can? Not being all full of resentment and martydom over a football outing? After all - admit it - if other things in the R were right, the football game wouldn't be such a big deal. exactly! but the fact remains that things are NOT right in the r And, the male-bonding-over-sports thing - your H is not exactly unique in that. I don't have a problem with h watching football...I don't have a problem with h being one of those freaky fans that people stare at in bars cause they watch the game as if their very life depended on each play..I think it's pretty cool he can have such passion for something outside himself the problem is that he doesn't allow me to share it unless it's convenient for him to do so

What would happen if you quit reacting/nagging/fault-finding, and built a happy, joyfilled active life for yourself - you might be surprised, H just might want to join you there! nope! then h would just accuse me of hanging with the wrong people or get mad at me when I ask him to spend time with me since he can find the time and energy for his own stuff..then I would be living a life completely without h...I have gone that route many times over in the 14 years I've spent with him...then I say? what's the point? go out and enjoy life? live and be happy, laugh and enjoy what life has to offer only to return to a blob who doesn't want to share it with me?

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cathy,

when the actual football season is over..h finds other things to do with his time...chopping wood for hours outside...reading about the team on the website...basically doing whatever he can to avoid us.

LL

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