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K4D #1802228 07/16/09 02:30 PM
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To clear up any mystery here so you all don't think I am weird, I have been going to a traditional latin mass catholic church. My W is against the catholic church. But I believe that is where I am supposed to be.

I'm not looking to start a religious discussion either. I am just stating the situation. I have been also working with a priest there and he is a very nice priest. He is a great guy, very caring and compassionate and a wonderful priest.

Kevin


Me 36, W 37
M: 08/02/97
D13, D9
1st Bomb 02/08
Reconciled 04/08
2nd Bomb: 09/08
W filed for D 02/04/09
Separated 03/09
D dismissed 06/09/09
Still separated...
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Kevin,
I completely understand your feelings. Before the bomb was dropped, I was in the seminary to become an ordained permanent Deacon.
I love the church, it is my life.
If I may also suggest if you can talk to a Deacon. I have been talking to a friend of mine who is a Deacon, and as it happens, my MC is a Deacon. These men are married, and have a wealth of experiences to add to whatever spiritual guidance they can give. Don't stop talking to the priest, though, if it is comforting for you. I only suggest this because it has worked wonders for me.
What surprises me in my sitch is that my W came to me during a very spiritually dry time in my life and brought me back to the Church. It was through discernment with her that I followed my calling to the Diaconate. And now she wants to turn her back on our marriage vows.
I have stated before that I pray daily for everyone here.
If there is anything you want to discuss spiritually, I would be very willing to. Maybe a new thread, or somehow communicating by email or something.
As Pope John Paul II said; "Fear not"
(My 3 year old boy is named Johnpaul)

PS I have been wanting to go to a latin mass for sometime now, but the nearest parish that does it is almost an hour away. Maybe some Sunday I will make the trip by myself.


Me-40
W-41
Together-10
M-8
S-6
S-4
Bomb 5/08
Bomb 10/08
Thought things were better, was wrong.
Still living together
Wife doesn't think she will ever love me again.
Orich #1802294 07/16/09 03:23 PM
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Hi orich,

I would love to talk to you sometime. My email address is what my former username used to be a yahoo.com. I just don't want to post it anymore since I know it is against the rules. If you don't know what it used to be, I will print it on here in another way so it doesn't just pull up outside the thread.

The latin mass is really neat. Its very different. I am still lost in a lot of it not knowing latin myself. But I am being worked with on it.

Kevin


Me 36, W 37
M: 08/02/97
D13, D9
1st Bomb 02/08
Reconciled 04/08
2nd Bomb: 09/08
W filed for D 02/04/09
Separated 03/09
D dismissed 06/09/09
Still separated...
K4D #1802307 07/16/09 03:37 PM
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I will put it this way...

In my current username, the K equals kevin. The D equals Dallas. Don't forget to put the 4 in the middle of the two words and then it is at yahoo.com

Kevin


Me 36, W 37
M: 08/02/97
D13, D9
1st Bomb 02/08
Reconciled 04/08
2nd Bomb: 09/08
W filed for D 02/04/09
Separated 03/09
D dismissed 06/09/09
Still separated...
K4D #1802310 07/16/09 03:42 PM
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For those that don't know what a stander is. Here is what it is according to rejoice ministries.

A Standers Affirmation
I AM STANDING FOR THE HEALING OF MY MARRIAGE!... I will not give up, give in, give out or give over 'til that healing takes place. I made a vow, I said the words, I gave the pledge, I gave a ring, I took a ring, I gave myself, I trusted GOD, and said the words, and meant the words... in sickness and in health, in sorrow and in joy, for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, in good times and in bad...so I am standing NOW, and will not sit down, let down, slow down, calm down, fall down, look down or be down 'til the breakdown is torn down!

I refuse to put my eyes on outward circumstances, or listen to prophets of doom, or buy into what is trendy, worldly, popular, convenient, easy, quick, thrifty, or advantageous... nor will I settle for a cheap imitation of God's real thing, nor will I seek to lower God's standard, twist God's will, rewrite God's word, violate God's covenant, or accept what God hates, namely divorce!

In a world of filth, I will stay pure; surrounded by lies I will speak the truth; where hopelessness abounds, I will hope in God: where revenge is easier, I will bless instead of curse; and where the odds are stacked against me, I will trust in God's faithfulness.

I am a STANDER, and I will not acquiesce, compromise, quarrel or quit.. I have made the choice, set my face, entered the race, believed the Word, and trusted God for all the outcome.

I will allow neither the reaction of my spouse, nor the urging of my friends, nor the advice of my loved ones, nor economic hardship, nor the prompting of the devil to make me let up, slow up, blow up, or give up 'til my marriage is healed.

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Me 36, W 37
M: 08/02/97
D13, D9
1st Bomb 02/08
Reconciled 04/08
2nd Bomb: 09/08
W filed for D 02/04/09
Separated 03/09
D dismissed 06/09/09
Still separated...
K4D #1802315 07/16/09 03:45 PM
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Just another affirmation that God does heal marriages, you can look at the book of Hosea in the bible. His W left him and committed adultery and remarried I believe and Hosea waited for years until one day God directed him to go to the city and there he found his W who had become a slave. He paid for her release and brought her home and their M was restored. So yes, I do believe that God works in M's and restores them. There is the proof. God can do anything if we are faithful and follow his will.

Kevin


Me 36, W 37
M: 08/02/97
D13, D9
1st Bomb 02/08
Reconciled 04/08
2nd Bomb: 09/08
W filed for D 02/04/09
Separated 03/09
D dismissed 06/09/09
Still separated...
K4D #1802324 07/16/09 03:51 PM
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Truly.
Kevin, I started earnestly praying the Rosary everyday, contemplating the mysteries and asking Mary to intercede for my W and I for a reconciliation and happy family. Not 3 days later, after months of refusing to work on the M and saying it's over, W out of the blue suggested that she would like to try Retrouvaille.
I don't know what's going to happen, but surely it is God working in my life in a very tangible way.


Me-40
W-41
Together-10
M-8
S-6
S-4
Bomb 5/08
Bomb 10/08
Thought things were better, was wrong.
Still living together
Wife doesn't think she will ever love me again.
K4D #1802325 07/16/09 03:52 PM
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You go for it.

The last time (which I thought was the last time!) I went to an Afrikaans NGK church to find out what my wife saw. Couldn't understand much of it even though I've been here in Cape Town for 21 years. I met with the priest over the course of a few weeks. In the last session he thought I better be prepared to move on.

I didn't go back for any more chats BUT I DID go back with my wife arm in arm a few weeks later where I took great pride in introducing her to him.

I think he saw a miracle.

I just need to help this miracle along by changing me and by keeping my faith, the faith in my wife and faith in SOMEONE up there that seems to be doing his/her very best for us.

All the best

CT

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Thats great. More proof that God does work and heal in marriages. Like FaithfulH said, to often, people just give up and don't contiue on with the endurance to see their marriages restored. Its not an easy challenge. We all know that.

Honestly, yes, I have good days and bad days. Its a real rollercoaster of emotions. Somedays I think I am doing just fine and other days I think, why isn't anything changing. I have to remind myself that I still have to live and its not in my timing or uderstanding but in God's. And it will be at the perfect timing whenever that is. It is a hard road getting there and there are lots of bumps along the way. There are lots of times when despair sets in. But then you just have to remember that God is in control and it is his will for marriages to be restored.

Kevin


Me 36, W 37
M: 08/02/97
D13, D9
1st Bomb 02/08
Reconciled 04/08
2nd Bomb: 09/08
W filed for D 02/04/09
Separated 03/09
D dismissed 06/09/09
Still separated...
K4D #1802478 07/16/09 06:55 PM
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Not to be pessimistic or anything. God knows I'm a Stander too, but what if your W doesn't reconcile and divorces you?


M-43 W-40
2D - 9 and 5

Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet a new life.

RECONCILED AND WISER
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