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peace,

I am not surprised at your generosity in helping him heal. Given your introspection, I trust that if it isn't right you will choose differently.

I hope you continue to feel better.

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Grace
Thank you for your kind words

H just here
we had a few words
Not the best DBing on my part
I asked him to limit s6 video time as s6 sees H visit as an open ticket to play video
H said I was CONTROLLING
as first i said sorry you fel that way
then
a few more words came out
mostly about kids
told him some truths
I said
D 12 is seeing C tomorrow at her request to talk about this emptiness(abandonment she feels b/c of H leaving)

he thinks I put her up to seeing C
b/c I AM CONTROLLING

he said I havent abandoned her, I visit just like other Husbands do(his words)
I said you are not like other H..you left
Other H come home and live with their kids
he said other wives ARENT SO CONTROLLING
I said
Our kids dont have a real dad-you left
I know..i said a lot 2X4 again
2 weeks in a row!
and Ive done so well for this year keeping mouth shut
its all true and he is in some kind of fantasy
he really doesnt think he did anything wrong
and
its all my fault b/c im controlling
anyway, he will be back soon with kids and I wont say anything more
but next week I may ask him a few qestions about his thoughts and plans
peace


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Hello peace-
I don't know but quite a few of us are slacking off on our DBing. I wonder if you felt comfortable to let loose a little with your H because you had a positive reaction from him the last time.

I hate that "controlling" thing that they do. Isn't control a marital issue that can be worked on? Is a control issue really enough to break-up a family over?

Good for you getting your D into see a C. Why can't your H should support it?...GUILT!...but I guess that is obvious.

You will be fine. Just back off now and go back to what you were doing before...How is the praise band and the line dancing? Hope you are feeling better.

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Thanks
H came back and was quiet and distant..no surprize
he gave s6 a bath, put him to sleep and left!
oh well..I will try to continue as long as I can with my plan
but
Im not going to worry about a backslide now and again b/c
H needs to hear a little bit of what is really going on in real life
people are affected and everything is not picture perfect!
and the kids dont really care why he left or that he had a controlling wife

I also will try to not so it constantly
In reality, I think it makes no difference
they are checked out
whether I am a perfect steppford wife
or whether I am honest and real
I think he shoulf know what D12 said and those were her words
Maybe D therapist would like dad to come in for a session?????
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Peace,

If he's in a crisis, he may not even comprehend the truth of your words. On top of that, men need to feel respected so we women have to be careful with how we convey something. And when he's feeling the guilt, he will want to lash out at you in anger... Have you heard of the book "Love & Respect" by Dr. Emerson Eggerichs?

I think he did take to heart at least some of what you said to him because he took care of S6 before he left.

I like your plan to give him the space to heal. Ask God for strength and the words to use in your interaction with your H.
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Im not going to worry about a backslide now and again b/c
H needs to hear a little bit of what is really going on in real life
people are affected and everything is not picture perfect


I agree. It is healthy and reality. And it is for yourself. You are being real to YOURSELF.

I think D amnd H going to the therapist is a good idea.

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he said I havent abandoned her, I visit just like other Husbands do(his words)


So in his mind it's only abandonment if he never visits?

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D 12 is seeing C tomorrow at her request to talk about this emptiness(abandonment she feels b/c of H leaving)


This is so great that she wants to talk to someone. Even if as her Mom you saw she needed it and sent her, that's just looking out for your D12. It's what parents do. I think it's just to hard for them to admit their actions really cause damage esp to their kids.

Take care and hug those wonderful kids tight.

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Hi peace,

Your H sure shows how he doesn't comprehend what he is doing to the kids! Unfortunately, he will not comrehend it even when you point it out to him.

Every once in awhile it is probably good for him to hear, but don't let him bait you into those conversations that let him tell you that you are "controlling". I think it lets them reinforce their distorted beliefs for themselves.

Stick with your plan peace! You'll know when and if it is time for NC. It is something that you have to be ready for in order to do it.

(((hugs)))


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Thanks girls for your support

I left H a VM today just clearing the air..It felt right
D did amazingly well in T as I stayed at her request and she shared from her heart
I was so happy for her
she has my genes there!
and I got to listen to her deepest fears and thoughts about H



i am doing ok
went to Therapy as well and she always validates what i am doing(her job)
I get clearer about my choice to stand and I still want to
but I am also clear that while I want to DB and practice unconditional love for H, I also want to allow for some reality talks when it seems appropriate and I no longer fear H leaving for good
I am ready for whatever way it goes
My T says she believes it will be my choice
although she has no crystal ball and has no way to know what results will be, it still felt good to hear that from Her

MY dream about being in a swamp
and then seeing this beautiful clear and almost perfect road sit with me daily
I see the road as acceptance and although I am not there, I am closer and it is my goal
a soon as I kick this cold, I will try to get on the road and get back to GAL and PMA
things that are hard to do when your nose is stuffed inside your head
peace


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peace that is so great your D was able to open up in T and that you got to be in there too.

I hope your cold goes away soon!


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