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Please don’t think I am being too critical, it’s the toughest thing one can go thru in life and you have a baby like me so I know how much harder it is for us. You are reading too much into what he says and does, I agree you are doing so much better than even a week ago. In a month you will be much stronger but until then try hard to not focus on him. Limit the contact as much as you can, until you feel more grounded don’t be around when he comes by. Parallel parent until you gain more confidence and make it all about you. Your D is too little you have all the time to figure out coparenting if it comes to that. Kech deserves better her D deserves better, show this to him in your actions

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I definitely don’t think you’re being too critical at all! I genuinely want all the suggestions anyone can give me! I’m open to doing what I need to do. I have a very hard time with tough love and I’m trying but it’s a hard balance when trying not to give him any ammunition and also trying to show him I know I deserve better. I know there’s a balance there, finding it is what I’m having trouble with. And he doesn’t make it any easier. If I don’t respond to texts quickly he assumes I’m ignoring him and gets rude, it’s so frustrating. He’s very self serving right now, not thinking of anyone but himself. But throwing me crumbs. I’m on to him, I’m just trying to rise above it. He can think whatever he wants, but I’m hoping in time he will see I’m not backing down from my boundaries. I’m not asking anything of him. I’m letting him have all the freedom he wants, he’s living whatever life he wants to live. And when he’s still miserable months from now and doesn’t have me to blame, maybe he will see it’s not really all on me.

Wishful thinking I’m sure. But maybe by then I’ll have embraced this all for the opportunity I’ve been told it is. smile

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Originally Posted by kech
I’d love to read the drop the rope thread and the lighthouse. Haven’t been able to find either


Drop the rope:

"The Bridge"

There was a man who had given much thought to what he wanted
from life. He had experienced many moods and trials. He had
experimented with different ways of living, and he had had his
share of both success and failure. At last, he began to see
clearly where he wanted to go.

Diligently, he searched for the right opportunity. Sometimes he
came close, only to be pushed away. Often he applied all his
strength and imagination, only to find the path hopelessly
blocked. And then at last it came. But the opportunity would not
wait. It would be made available only for a short time. If it
were seen that he was not committed, the opportunity would not
come again.

Eager to arrive, he started on his journey. With each step, he
wanted to move faster; with each thought about his goal, his
heart beat quicker; with each vision of what lay ahead, he found
renewed vigor. Strength that had left him since his early youth
returned, and desires, all kinds of desires, reawakened from
their long-dormant positions.

Hurrying along, he came upon a bridge that crossed through the
middle of a town. It had been built high above a river in order
to protect it from the floods of spring.

He started across. Then he noticed someone coming from the
opposite direction. As they moved closer, it seemed as though
the other was coming to greet him. He could see clearly,
however, that he did not know this other, who was dressed
similarly except for something tied around his waist.

When they were within hailing distance, he could see that what
the other had about his waist was a rope. It was wrapped around
him many times and probably, if extended, would reach a length
of 30 feet.

The other began to uncurl the rope, and, just as they were
coming close, the stranger said, "Pardon me, would you be so
kind as to hold the end a moment?"

Surprised by this politely phrased but curious request, he
agreed without a thought, reached out, and took it.

"Thank you," said the other, who then added, "two hands now, and
remember, hold tight." Whereupon, the other jumped off the bridge.

Quickly, the free-falling body hurtled the distance of the ropes
length, and from the bridge the man abruptly felt the pull.
Instinctively, he held tight and was almost dragged over the
side. He managed to brace himself against the edge, however, and
after having caught his breath, looked down at the other
dangling, close to oblivion.

"What are you trying to do?" he yelled.

"Just hold tight," said the other.

"This is ridiculous," the man thought and began trying to haul
the other in. He could not get the leverage, however. It was as
though the weight of the other person and the length of the rope
had been carefully calculated in advance so that together they
created a counterweight just beyond his strength to bring the
other back to safety.

"Why did you do this?" the man called out.

"Remember," said the other, "if you let go, I will be lost."

"But I cannot pull you up," the man cried.

"I am your responsibility," said the other.

"Well, I did not ask for it," the man said.

"If you let go, I am lost," repeated the other.

He began to look around for help. But there was no one. How
long would he have to wait? Why did this happen to befall him
now, just as he was on the verge of true success? He examined
the side, searching for a place to tie the rope. Some
protrusion, perhaps, or maybe a hole in the boards. But the
railing was unusually uniform in shape; there were no spaces
between the boards. There was no way to get rid of this newfound
burden, even temporarily.

"What do you want?" he asked the other hanging below.

"Just your help," the other answered.

"How can I help? I cannot pull you in, and there is no place to
tie the rope so that I can go and find someone to help me help you."

"I know that. Just hang on; that will be enough. Tie the rope
around your waist; it will be easier."

Fearing that his arms could not hold out much longer, he tied
the rope around his waist.

"Why did you do this?" he asked again. "Don't you see what you
have done? What possible purpose could you have had in mind?"

"Just remember," said the other, "my life is in your hands."

What should he do? "If I let go, all my life I will know that I
let this other die. If I stay, I risk losing my momentum toward
my own long-sought-after salvation. Either way this will haunt
me forever."

With ironic humor he thought to die himself, instantly, to jump
off the bridge while still holding on. "That would teach this
fool." But he wanted to live and to live life fully. "What a
choice I have to make; how shall I ever decide?"

As time went by, still no one came. The critical moment of
decision was drawing near. To show his commitment to his own
goals, he would have to continue on his journey now. It was
already almost too late to arrive in time. But what a terrible
choice to have to make.

A new thought occurred to him. While he could not pull this
other up solely by his own efforts, if the other would shorten
the rope from his end by curling it around his waist again and
again, together they could do it. Actually, the other could do
it by himself, so long as he, standing on the bridge, kept it
still and steady.

"Now listen," he shouted down. "I think I know how to save you."
And he explained his plan.

But the other wasn't interested.

"You mean you won't help? But I told you I cannot pull you up by
myself, and I don't think I can hang on much longer either."

"You must try," the other shouted back in tears. "If you fail, I
die."

The point of decision arrived. What should he do? "My life or
this other's?" And then a new idea. A revelation. So new, in
fact, it seemed heretical, so alien was it to his traditional
way of thinking.

"I want you to listen to me carefully," he said, "because I mean
what I am about to say. I will not accept the position of choice
for your life, only for my own; the position of choice for your
own life I hereby give back to you."

"What do you mean?" the other asked, afraid.

"I mean, simply, it's up to you. You decide which way this ends.
I will become the counterweight. You do the pulling and bring
yourself up. I will even tug a little from here." He began
unwinding the rope from around his waist and braced himself anew
against the side.

"You cannot mean what you say," the other shrieked. "You would
not be so selfish. I am your responsibility. What could be so
important that you would let someone die? Do not do this to me."

He waited a moment. There was no change in the tension of the rope.

"I accept your choice," he said, at last, and freed his hands.

--From "FRIEDMAN'S FABLES" by Edwin Friedman,
published by Guilford Press

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Lighthouse story:

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2484619

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Also, the picnic analogy:

http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1266222


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Wow. I’m in tears in the parking lot reading that story. Amazing.

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Wow. In my month on this site, I never saw that story before. Thanks for sharing.


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Staying busy today. Decided to get out of the house early for some shopping with the baby and now getting ready for a bridal shower. Haven’t heard from him but keeping it moving today!

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I think I ran into that on one of the other message boards before I found this one and committed to it.

It’s hard for me to read because in a sense my WAW is the person on the bridge, at least in her mind.

But it speaks to the importance of detachment, validating the authentic individuality of the person who is making decisions we don’t think are right. “Loving detachment,” allowing them to choose what they think is best for them.

Will we be waiting at the end of the bridge when they crawl up the side of the canyon?


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Still nothing from him today. Clearly I’m not detached at all.

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Originally Posted by kech
Still nothing from him today. Clearly I’m not detached at all.

It doesn't happen overnight.

Everyone has a different timetable depending on his/her personality, situation, and effort. Keep at it.

Remember to worry about what you can control, and not what you can't!


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Thanks ovrrnbw. I can’t wait to get there. I do usually hear from him daily, so the days I don’t are tough. He texted yesterday morning that he would mow the rest of the lawn and weed whack today. I just returned home after being gone all day and it’s 6pm, and he hasn’t been here to do the lawn.

What’s the point of even telling me that? I don’t know how many times I’ve told him I can’t rely on him anymore, this is a perfect example. And he doesn’t see it.

Blows my mind

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