Miss H, I agree with Snodderly, he is hiding and lying. What he doesn't realize is by lying to the court, he is subject to jail time for contempt and purjury, he best just buck up and man up before he gets in real trouble.
I agree, I think it's killing him that he was financially supporting my moving on. Sad that he is willing to see the kids suffer at my expense. I also agree that he is hiding his expenses somehow. As regards to the ow, she was at the last court hearing also. However, she only stuck around for an hour while we were waiting in the waiting room and then disappeared. If he really is broke, then I am sure she is paying for everything regarding their house. BH, he definetly lied to the courts, but whether he gets punished for that, remains to be seen. I'll believe it when I see it.
Not sure if I mentioned this, but he lied to the courts in the first hearing by saying he was all caught up with his support payments. Obviously, he wasn't. I still don't have any of to this day.
Miss H, if I understand, you are from New York. If that is the case, the courts might be a little more liberal than in the south where I am from. I have seen people here jailed for the things we are talking about. I still think you can prove he is hiding his income and lying. His 2009 W-2 is the thing. As I said earlier, if that were reflective of a $90,000 pay cut, he would have shown it. He's full of crap. Take Snodderly's advice and supoena his payroll, not only from his job, but his business to. Just keep the pressure on him and he will trip himself up.
Sorry to see the roller coaster in an infinite loop. Years ago I knew someone doing his xw this way. He was working for his folks in a carpet company ... for cash, no records. They also bought the house he and his new gal moved into while he wasn't helping his x and three sons.
There is justice. He burned down the new house his parents bought with a plumbing torch, accident. His xw found out the hard way that he had not paid income taxes for the years he was married, and the IRS began taking away the house his w kept in the settlement. They said he had no money and she got half the liability for his taxes in her d. She worked a deal to pay up over time, and they deferred snatching the house till the kids were 18. Luckily, she finally settled with IRS and now owns the house. Her shiftless xh never ever held a job that could get garnished. Piece of Sh!t
Anyway, you need to talk to your L about the possibility that your jerk's uncle is helping him hide salary and associated taxes. THAT is a Federal no-no for both of them. I heard the IRS is giving rewards to people reporting tax cheats! Maybe your L has some ideas of how to metion this just right, in court - or have uncle brought in under oath to explain the big pay cut letter ... with an audited set of books!
You've survived some of the craziest there are and you've done great. It may be hard to believe right now but I am sure you will find your way through this also.
Ex claims he is so poor that he can't meet his mortgage payments, yet he was able to take the boys out to dinner tonight and stop at the nursery to buy a bunch of plants.
Meanwhile I am left wondering how I am going to make my mortgage payment.
I'm sure you have already, but you should communicate with your mortgage company even now.
By the way, there are some new mortgage modification programs out there that apparently are pretty good. Looks like Deb is going to be able to take advantage of one on her house mortgage. Regardless, from my experience, your mortgage company is much easier to work with and much more flexible if you keep them fully informed of any potential problems you might be having.
This site and the many stories here have taught me that it's not at all unusual for things I never thought possible to actually happen. I can't imagine your ex getting away with such a blatant manipulation in court, but stay diligent.
Just don't allow this to toss you into a funk reminiscent of our early days on this board. Our ex's no longer deserve the power of being able to do such a thing with their shenanigans.
It'll work out MissH.
Blessings,
Bill
"Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon."
Jeesh Miss H I hope you keep your L on top of things so the judge can see what a slimeball JA is! Document, document and document some more. A real pain as you should be free of this crap already, You and Your L just have to let the judge see what an idiot you all are dealing with
Me 53 H 51 OW 25 Bomb may 06 left june 8/ 06 ILYBNILWY (twice!) 7/6/07 H wants to come home 7/21/07 H comes home 7/07 -7/08 long haul letting go of OW now piecing in earnest
He was lying so much in court that he was getting confused.
We didn't get an answer today whether or not he will get his downward modification as there wasn't enough time to finish up. I have to go back June 9.
Judge told ex to figure out which one of the 2 tales he plans on going with before he appears before her again.
She said, "your side isn't looking so good."
I am pretty sure she thinks he is an idiot.
She was yelling at him and his lawyer. She made them both look like idiots.
She said to him, "Where are your hardships, because so far the only ones I see suffering are your ex-wife and kids."
His side had went first. Lawyer asked him questions for an hour. The judge got so frustrated as things weren't getting anywhere that she took over the questions.
She caught him in so many lies. One minute he would testify one thing, the next, a whole different story.
He made it sound like he owned his house by himself while his lawyer questioned him.
Then when my lawyer cross examined, he got him to admit that his gf owned half the house.
Turns out his gf hasn't been working because she is a full time student.
He said he has been supporting her and paying the bills.
Then in another story, he claims ow's parents have been paying their mortgage for the last 5 months.
I was pissed when I found out he said he was supporting ow. The judge was too. She said, "So you are supporting her while you ignore your financial obligations to your ex wife and kids."
Boy was she mad. I thought at one point she was going to throw him in jail for lying in court.
He went in there trying to play the victim, but she wasn't buying that at all.
I had to bite my lip the whole time so I wouldn't laugh. Judge was mocking him a lot.
