AMY, I think its important that everyone understands that GOD created us with a brain and the ability to make choices. Based upon those choices is where are problems often lie. GOD doesn't make bad things happen, people do.
No kidding. And I think the vast majority here that believe already know that Braveheart. I don't believe I have suggested anything to the contrary.
You and Craig are both correct however a person's heart can be changed through the prayers of another (or even their own prayers) IF that person becomes open to it. You can argue that if you want to but I am proof. My heart started to change 3+ years ago when I hit my knees and finally prayed "God, change ME". The rest is history. Literally. HIS STORY.
Believe, this is Amy's thread, so I will not muck it up . But what you said is flat wrong.He can certainly take situations in our lives and use them to help us change our ways. If this was true there would be no need for Jesus to die on the cross. We are not robots, we have the ability to choose , right or wrong.
m-54 w-44 children-4 bomb-sept 21 2007 t-21 m-20yrs bomb-sept 23 2007 divorced but not giving up hope, not yethttp://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...rue#post1224023
that last comment is so NOT true. God can and will override our will. There are many versus in the bible that confirm this. God always has a way to accomplish his plan. If He could not override our will there would never be a reason to pray. Please study this as I hear it often and it is wrong and limits our view of what God can and will do.
A willful choice to sin will never be overridden by God.
But a willful desire to learn will never be ignored by Him either. A person can walk with Him and still walk straight out of His will. I've done it. He did not override my free will on those occasions. Instead He taught me THERE. And that brought me out.
AMY, I think its important that everyone understands that GOD created us with a brain and the ability to make choices. Based upon those choices is where are problems often lie. GOD doesn't make bad things happen, people do.
No kidding. And I think the vast majority here that believe already know that Braveheart. I don't believe I have suggested anything to the contrary.
You and Craig are both correct however a person's heart can be changed through the prayers of another IF that person becomes open to it. You can argue that if you want to but I am proof. My heart started to change 3+ years ago when I hit my knees and finally prayed "God, change ME". The rest is history. Literally. HIS STORY.
You didn't Amy, I was just making a comment about people blaming God for things. GOD can change someone, but they have to want to accept it.
You are in the zone. You've left the emotional spin cycle, for now, and the Lord has delivered you onto solid ground. You are in the phase that most broken couples never make it to, and the journey was incredible. Through burning hell holes, leach infested swamps, and dry desserts you've crawled. And you have crawled my sister.
For anyone trying to heal a broken marriage, this is how it's done. Healing is NOT going to happen in a week, or a month, or a year. It will take MANY years, and you will NEVER get "back" together, you will only move forward into something new. The sooner you can accept that reality, the sooner you can move forward and let go.
Your M died a long time ago and will hopefully not be resurrected. It is a NEW marriage, between new people you should hope for. You can fight, hold on to the old feelings, old behaiviors, old concepts. You can make attempts to fix, control, and convince your spouse. But in the end, it is YOU who need be fixed, YOU need be humble, YOU need to love unconditionally. It may not be politically correct, but it is evidenced here.
Healing happens in baby steps. It's impossible to recognize any progress from day to day, but look back over time and realize the growth. Live in the moment, but measure the growth in the decades.
AmyC, you stood in marriage while all hell broke loose around you. You had faith when there was nothing to hope for. Temptation, fear, anger, selfishness, were on a relentless attack. You are a warrior! You were near death many times, but you never gave up. Evil kills marriages, and evil dwells within all of use. Our God is more powerful, but that leaves us smack in the middle, left to our own free will. There may be no guaruntees, no promises, no rewards, but there is still faith. The depth of our faith will dictate the degree of our healing and growth.
Just keep doing what you're doing AmyC. Be your faithful self, take one step at a time, and rest assured that you are loved beyond your wildest imagination. I recognize where you are right now, I think I've been there or at least close. It is truly a miraculous journey, and one baby step away from whatever comes next.
I am sooooo proud and thankful for you!
Love,
COG
My Story http://www.divorcebusting.com/forum...&Number=660444&page=2#Post660444
AMY, I think its important that everyone understands that GOD created us with a brain and the ability to make choices. Based upon those choices is where are problems often lie. GOD doesn't make bad things happen, people do.
No kidding. And I think the vast majority here that believe already know that Braveheart. I don't believe I have suggested anything to the contrary.
You and Craig are both correct however a person's heart can be changed through the prayers of another IF that person becomes open to it. You can argue that if you want to but I am proof. My heart started to change 3+ years ago when I hit my knees and finally prayed "God, change ME". The rest is history. Literally. HIS STORY.
You didn't Amy, I was just making a comment about people blaming God for things. GOD can change someone, but they have to want to accept it. You are right. My husband is actually proof of this! I think he's finally getting tired of the hamster wheel - lol. Been there - done that...and that's how I know he's going to ebb and flow for a bit still...
You are in the zone. You've left the emotional spin cycle, for now, and the Lord has delivered you onto solid ground. You are in the phase that most broken couples never make it to, and the journey was incredible. Through burning hell holes, leach infested swamps, and dry desserts you've crawled. And you have crawled my sister.
For anyone trying to heal a broken marriage, this is how it's done. Healing is NOT going to happen in a week, or a month, or a year. It will take MANY years, and you will NEVER get "back" together, you will only move forward into something new. The sooner you can accept that reality, the sooner you can move forward and let go.
Your M died a long time ago and will hopefully not be resurrected. It is a NEW marriage, between new people you should hope for. You can fight, hold on to the old feelings, old behaiviors, old concepts. You can make attempts to fix, control, and convince your spouse. But in the end, it is YOU who need be fixed, YOU need be humble, YOU need to love unconditionally. It may not be politically correct, but it is evidenced here.
Healing happens in baby steps. It's impossible to recognize any progress from day to day, but look back over time and realize the growth. Live in the moment, but measure the growth in the decades.
AmyC, you stood in marriage while all hell broke loose around you. You had faith when there was nothing to hope for. Temptation, fear, anger, selfishness, were on a relentless attack. You are a warrior! You were near death many times, but you never gave up. Evil kills marriages, and evil dwells within all of use. Our God is more powerful, but that leaves us smack in the middle, left to our own free will. There may be no guaruntees, no promises, no rewards, but there is still faith. The depth of our faith will dictate the degree of our healing and growth.
Just keep doing what you're doing AmyC. Be your faithful self, take one step at a time, and rest assured that you are loved beyond your wildest imagination. I recognize where you are right now, I think I've been there or at least close. It is truly a miraculous journey, and one baby step away from whatever comes next.
I am sooooo proud and thankful for you!
Love,
COG
My Mufasa
I didn't even send up a smoke signal this time and here you are...
Wow - I think for once I might be speechless.
I'll tell you a secret - I used to not buy all that humble pie crap.
Til I was force-fed a table full of it about 8 or 10 times
I didn't even send up a smoke signal this time and here you are...
Holy spirit moment.
Quote:
I'll tell you a secret - I used to not buy all that humble pie crap.
Yep, I know what ya mean. I didn't either until I hit bottom, was ready to try anything. My pride still gets the better of me sometimes, but the best times for the people I love are when I'm humble.
Take care, I'll check back in when I need to.
Love Ya!
COG
My Story http://www.divorcebusting.com/forum...&Number=660444&page=2#Post660444
Amy, I have read your posts to others and have always found them filled with such honesty and wisdom and sometimes great jokes.
I just wanted to tell you that what you wrote here affected me. I have been feeling lost and empty and I was exploring the reasons why. I think a large part of it is that I have not felt close to God.
I like the idea of seeing and siezing opportunities that He puts before us. That may be a way for me to feel Him in my life.
So, thank you for this and for your wonderful advice and humor. You are respected so much on these boards.
Nope, thank YOU for writing that post.
Do you know that saying "when you feel far from God, guess who moved"?
I always found it was me.
That you are "exploring the reasons why" you feel lost and empty tells me you will find your footing before too long.
Because you have a willing spirit.
Shoot, that just made me remember something - you know in the Bible where it says "the meek shall inherit the earth"? Well, my Pastor was very much into word studies - back to the original language, etc... - and we studied that scripture one time and guess what we discovered "meek" meant?
