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"When life gives you a hundred reasons to cry, show life that you have a thousand reasons to smile."
Hope_11 #1386646 03/14/08 10:05 PM
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Puppy.... I pondered for a second... just one or two... than burst out laughing.... thanks for that.

Here's how Part II went...

I came home from work, and approached her:

Me: I think that us getting together was a good idea. Too bad it didn't work out. Can we try again some other time?

Her: Sure.

10 minutes later.... in private:

Her: If we are gonna get together again, YOU need to schedule it. You need to approach me about it.

Me: What?

Her: You know, the arrogance you showed today... coming home and acting like nothing. It proves to me that my decision is right.

Me: What? What are you talking about?

Her: Questioning the credibility of my lawyer???? How much family law experience does she have???? Arrogant.

Me: If expecting you to pay your fair share of family expenses is "arrogant" ... then I'm guilty

Her: Oh, you are. And the ball is in your court. You schedule the next meeting.

BTW, next week is very bad. I am traveling; I have a meeting with two very important people...


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Mark,

Don't let her suck you in. You weren't being arrogant, she is just mad that it didn't go the way she wanted/thought it would and reality sucks sometimes. Especially when it smacks you right upside the head.

If she is wanting you to schedule the next meeting I would advise her to get a lawn chair and a good book. I would take my sweet time, if I did it at all, she wants it, let her do the work for it.

Sue & Puppy, You are too funny! Thanks for the giggle!


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How can she possibly question your attitude to her L when even she doesn't take the advice of HER OWN L by paying half as her L has advised her to do


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Gosh Mark, she's just trying to bait you and make you angry. It makes her position so much easier. Just give in. Say, you are sorry she feels that way. Be so nice it's almost ridiculous. Don't let her have the satisfaction of putting you in a negative light.


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Say, you are sorry she feels that way.


Man, did I ever use that one a LOT with my wife! That and "I can understand how you'd feel that way," and "If I were in your situation, I'd probably feel exactly the same way."

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Her: Oh, you are. And the ball is in your court. You schedule the next meeting.

BTW, next week is very bad. I am traveling; I have a meeting with two very important people...


So...the standoff continues. What do you want out of this Mark?

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So...the standoff continues. What do you want out of this Mark?


Money. I want to be able to pay my bills. And against the advice of her own attorney, she is not paying me anything.

Here's the next step for me: I will schedule a meeting for the explicitly stated goal of discussing finances. We can't do anything until this is resolved.


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FWIW, splitting up finances does not have to be an irrevokable step towards The Big D. W and I split up our finances back when she was still "heading out the door" - but I approached it as a very positive thing. Even now, the finances are split - and I continue to be glad we did.

Here's how we did it, FWIW. We have three accounts: hers, mine, and family.

Each of us automatically deposits our paycheck into our individual account. Then, we each automatically transfer a set amount per paycheck from there into the joint account. In our case, that amount was calculated as a percentage (not strictly 50-50) after accounting for how much each of us earned, what were were getting in retirement benefits, etc. The goal was to be as fair as possible in determining that amount.

All household- and kid-related expenses are paid out of the joint account. I did (like you did, I think) a thorough assessment of what our monthly bills were, and we went over them together. We did make some adjustments based on her MLC frame of mind, but for the most part, groceries, utilities, and the like didn't vary much based on her plan to leave.

We agreed to review and adjust the amounts we were contributing at least once a year, or when anything significant happened to change things - whether that was her moving out, or one of us getting a raise, or whatever.

By agreeing on the automatic, scheduled transfer of funds, we took the "nag factor" out of the equation.

The two keys for me, I think, were:

1. Approaching the whole thing with a spirit of wanting to be fair and reasonable.

2. Acknowledging that she planned to leave, and putting in a way to deal with that when it came - without having to deal with it RIGHT THEN. Taking that huge looming issue out of the equation was HUGE.

Hope this helps. Even today, I find it very liberating to have "my own money" seperate from the household money. \:\)


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