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#548990 10/11/05 07:22 PM
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And there's an Amazone hidden in every woman - so watch out.

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No, the 17th was 8 days before my next period was due - I was due 25 September but missed it.

But anyway, you're right. There's virtually zero chance of getting pregnant like that. I don't have a clue when I ovulate, only that it's supposed to be middle of the cycle.

My dreams were right, it certainly was 'fairytale conception' as I still can't figure out how it happened

I phoned NHS Direct to talk to a dr but they said they'd call back in 3 hours and that was nearly 4 hours ago.

I think I will wait 1 week and re-test and if it is stronger positive I will re-scan. If then there is no hope I will take the pills.

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I think I will wait 1 week and re-test and if it is stronger positive I will re-scan. If then there is no hope I will take the pills.




Sounds sensible to me. Good thoughts and good luck.

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There was a question about money on here earlier, which I didn't answer because I got side-tracked.

Andy is on welfare because he stays at home with the kids; you can do that if you home ed, it's wrong in my opinion but never mind. He also fixes computers in what spare time he has as he used to be a computer technician when we were together, and he takes in that spare money (without declaring it, so technically not legal).

As for me, when he left I was still earning up until I was 8 months pregnant with DD4. Then I said to him I am exhausted, can you take the business until baby is 6 weeks old? So he moved the stuff to his house and promised to run it but didn't hardly at all.

I had DD4 and of course she was so exhausting, what with my depression too, that 6 weeks turned into 6 months.
I went on welfare from when I handed the business to Andy, but in November 02 he admitted he couldn't run it alone and asked me to help so I lived round his house 2 days a week to work, but didn't take any pay, just did it for fun and his company.

We worked together like this until June 03, then he left me again and I spent the next year fighting him in court, trying to keep my kids and get my business back. Finally, in June 04 after court action, I won my business back and he was forced to hand over the stuff.

Unfortunately he hadn't worked on it for months so I had hundreds of complaints to deal with, backdated orders, literally hundreds and hundreds of cheques that I had to throw away because they were more than 6 months old. I was knee deep in wasted money. Luckily most of the public were understanding, but I didn't get the lost revenue back.

I did get re-paid by the big businesses who had ordered as I asked them to re-issue cheques. But basically my successful business was almost closed down due to this.

I am now struggling on a shoe-string and make only enough for running expenses, no profit anymore. I am on a scheme where you get paid a benefit for running a business, so that while you are trying to build it up, your income is supplemented.

Then I have disability allowance which was awarded when I was 5 due to my disability, and this amounts to about $300 a month that I will have for the rest of my life. They put the figure up slightly as time goes on.

Andy also gets this as he has HMSN type 1a.

Then there is Child benefit which all parents in the UK get, regardless of income, so this is £15 a week (about $25) until she is 19 and there's Child Tax Credit which I think is £20 or £30 a week as well (about $50).

I also have an overdraft facility of £300 (about $550) which I use about 2 or 3 weeks out of every 4, to manage.
I have a lot of credit debt which I admit, I struggle to pay because I spent LOADS of money when I had depression so I will be paying it off for another 2 years, I suppose, and it means I've got none in the kitty for any extras or emergencies, but this was my own stupid fault so I don't complain about it.

It was really funny, because when me and Andy got together, I was only 16 so he actually claimed Child Benefit for me! He got my Child Benefit until I was 19, and I was already a mother myself at that age!

Fancy my own husband getting Child Benefit for his wife!

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#548994 10/11/05 11:20 PM
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I should be in bed now but Andy just text me wanting to talk to me and asking how I am.

So I told him about the clinic and he was apologising and saying to wait a while and see what happens but if we don't have one, that it because it's not meant to happen. He was actually really sensitive, considering he doesn't want more kids, and the fact that I sent him a horrible email the other day.

Then he told me that he was 50 miles away because his dad started bringing up blood and they rushed him to hospital and he nearly died so Andy just raced to Lincoln and was at the hosp. all day, wondering if he was going to pull through.

He has now got a lot better, but they think it is a bad case of pneumonia (sp?) and he's had it before so it was a bit touch and go this time.

So there I was at the clinic, getting stressed out over a probable failed pregnancy and there's him in another hospital 50 miles away, stressing out over his really ill dad.

I just can't believe all this crap that life is throwing at both of us.

I talked him through what happened and asked if he was okay and he did the same with me. Then I offered to do some laundry for him if he brought the washing here, just to ease the stress a bit, and he said it was 1 in the morning and he was too tired to think.

He told me not to worry about the whole pregnancy fiasco and 'what will be will be' and I told him to get some rest and then he said goodnight.

Ugh. What a day!!!

#548995 10/12/05 06:12 AM
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Hi Jo

Thanks for that very detailed info about how you manage!

Basically, you don't have to pay each other anything, so that's one source of tension avoided.

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#548996 10/12/05 01:41 PM
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Hi Jo,

It was indeed a rough day for each of you! I like how your R has reached a point where he's trusting you enough to talk to you about this stuff, to admit some needs. On your part, the ability to listen and be supportive will draw him back for more.

Hang in there!

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#548997 10/12/05 02:00 PM
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Hi Gabriel

Yes it certainly was! I felt almost guilty about all this women's drama when I heard about his dad. His dad is an alcoholic and until recently was a chain smoker, but apparently quit.

He has had pneumomia before which came on after a car accident (actually I think that is what caused the car accident because he blacked out at the wheel?) and so he was in hospital with that and a broken limb, maybe 2 years ago I think it was.

Then he had a flu vaccine and got flu from it really badly, so badly in fact that he was in hospital with it and had it for a whole month. He just can't fight infection at all but that might get better now he's quit smoking.

He's still in hospital now with this second bout of pneumonia. I hope he is okay because Andy wouldn't cope if anything happened to him. He reacts really badly to death, much worse than me.

Yes, I was touched that he shared that with me. He was remarkably calm over the whole pregnancy thing too and that surprised me as he just doesn't want another child.

I suspect he is probably secretly happy that it has failed (I think it has failed?).

I don't hold that against him, though, as I didn't go out and ask him to impregnate me.

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17 days over. No bleeding but some pain which worsens when I do physical activity.

Phoned my GP to ask for a second opinion. He said it sounds like very early miscarriage and that I should take the pills if that is what the clinic recommended. He said that while I am taking the pills (I have to have 5 of them), I won't get any bleeding, then as soon as I stop taking them, I will get bleeding to flush everything out.

He said it was safe and that some women who haven't even had a miscarriage take them to suppress the period while they go on holiday. I was appalled.

I said
'You actually give out drugs for recreational purposes?'
He said yes, many women choose to control their cycle with drugs so they can go to Spain or somewhere and not have a period while they are away.

I have never heard of anything so immoral. I thought medicine was meant for helping with ailments, not as a recreational convenience thing. Ugh!

Anyway, he said the side-effects would be bloating and stomach cramp, but I've got that anyway now so I don't think it matters.

I've decided to re-check my HCG level on Tuesday and if it doesn't register anymore, I will pick up the pills from the chemist on that day.

Other stuff:

I've paid the graphic designer now for my vaccination book design (paid in full) so it will be all systems go from here! I'll have to start working on a different one soon.

Took DD4 to Lunchtime, Playtime. Felt a bit painful walking all that way but it was good to get out of the house.

I have been roped into a Management Committee meeting on Friday, for the group! Don't really know why I agreed to that one, LOL

I've been cooking all real home-cooked recipes lately to cheer myself up so I'm off in a minute to rustle something up!

See you later,

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I have copied part of an email I sent Wes just so I don't have to write it all over again:

Andy has just told me that his dad cannot breathe without assistance, so I'm even more upset than when I started this email to you. The poor thing is in Derby, half an hour away and I cannot even help him. He is holding up fairly well, but hiding his feelings.

His dad is only 60.

He has asked me to have the kids, probably on Friday. I have a meeting then so I'll just have to take them with me. There are childcare facilities. I have said I will go to Derby to be with him if he needs moral support. I feel so helpless. He says he will call me there if he feels any worse.

I like Andy's dad. The last words we spoke were in anger, and if he doesn't start breathing by himself, I won't get the chance to say I'm sorry

Anyway, that's my news. Feeling very alone right now.


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