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I have no doubt, KML, that you are helping your kids and not enabling them. The world is just not the place it used to be when we were kids and you could leave home at 18 with very few difficulties. Rent was reasonable, wages compared to cost of living were reasonable, cost of education was reasonable, etc… These days none of those things are true. In my town, rent for a nice two-bedroom condo is $2,200 a month. If you are okay with a not nice two-bedroom in a sketchy neighbourhood, you can maybe find something for $1,500. That is not including utilities. Cost of living is out of control and Covid has made it worse. The gap between the haves and the have nots is continuously increasing which is painfully evident in our current political climate. I honestly don’t expect my kids to leave home until their mid 20’s. They will be required to go to school or work and pay rent but either way, they will be able to stay until they have a solid plan to be on their own. Honestly, this is the norm for many, many cultures. Why we North American’s have such an issue with it is beyond me. This whole me, myself and I culture is not an advantage for anyone.

LH - You must have been reading something different than what I read. I totally understand KML’s reaction. I’d have the same one. If she had needed or wanted our advice when it comes to her kids, she would have asked for it. She didn’t. And I don’t agree that people get defensive because the other person’s comments ring true. I found the comments offensive and I don’t have any involvement in the situation.

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Uuummm I never once commented on Ks situation other then to say it is sad and scary. I made the comment that no one said to abandon your kids because know one was saying that but as usual everything gets blown out of control. The comment about comments ringing true came from Don so I guess I’m not sure why I have been thrown under the bus but I guess I’ll take one for the team.

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I like pie! Still trying to find an occasion to use up last season's rhubarb and black currants.

Maybe Family Day which is in a couple of weeks. My son-in-law had hinted that they may visit this spring and surprisingly growing up in Georgia, rhubarb isn't a thing.


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I’ve only had rhunarb a couple of times and can’t remember ever having black currants. How’d you preserve them—frozen or as jam?

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I freeze so that the fruit preserves it's shape. Of course with currants, after you pick them you have to set then outside for a while so that the tiny spiders that were also harvested can wander away.

My black currant bush was a house warming gift from my grandparents and was a root from the bush they had on the original family farm we settled nearly 200 years ago. The rhubarb patch we had here when we moved in eventually died out but I established a new patch with some roots from one of my many cousins.

I was surprised when a good friend of mine from Bombay told me that black currant ice cream was very popular in India. I had no idea.


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I like huckleberry.

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Rhubarb is not a thing here…too far south. And Georgia is farther south so yeah I get it. Peach pie is my fave.


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MMmm, black currant ice cream sounds good!

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I grew up just north of the Ohio river on a farm. My grandma always made strawberry rhubarb pie as she grew both in the garden.


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