Onward #2

[kml]

Ugh. Just heard that a patient has died. This is the one that I saw in June, thought I had convinced her to get vaccinated. Nope. Daughter called me in October, her mom had been on a ventilator for a month, did I have any magic? I thought to myself "No! The magic would have been to get vaccinated!"

Please people - don't fall prey to the misinformation. This was a healthy 60 year old woman with only well-treated hypothyroidism - no specific risk factors for Covid. Get your vaccines. This woman didn't have to die.

[kml]

Well, CMM has declared he wants to take the drugs tomorrow. Can’t wait until Friday. Just wants it to be over. Waiting for the medication delivery now. Not sure I would make the same choice at this stage but I’m not in his body, experiencing his discomfort.

[DonH]

Well, CMM has declared he wants to take the drugs tomorrow. Can’t wait until Friday. Just wants it to be over. Waiting for the medication delivery now. Not sure I would make the same choice at this stage but I’m not in his body, experiencing his discomfort.

Wow I can’t even imagine - just all,of it. What he’s going through, what you are. His family (whichever are still in his life) and his friends. While I have not formed an opinion on this, other than I can’t ever imagine it being for me, is he really at that point? When I envision this I think, bed ridden, no or very little quality of life, in shear agony. Not just a somewhat quick decision to not wait any longer. Christmas is near 10 days away. But I’m not there, I’m not in is shoes. Just because I would not choose this does not mean he should not. It just really is unnerving to even think about, especially at this point.

I suspect you are thinking somewhat the same but allowing him to decide, which I also understand. But should you maybe not try to provide some guidance? It’s not like a window of opportunity will close. The meds will still be there on Thursday. He can still use them in the future. Perhaps he needs some help and suggestions at this point. Because from what you’ve told us, this does seem premature. Deciding now may not yet be the time does not mean he can’t change his mind another on day.

I’m so sorry for CMM having to be in such a position as well as you KML. I hope it all works out for the best.

[kml]

We’ve had many discussions about the fact that just because he has them doesn’t mean he has to take them. And it’ll be three weeks since he first made the request (waiting period is 15 days). He hasn’t been eating hardly anything the last few days - just a few bites here and there. His oxygen level is ok (on ten liters oxygen) he has abdominal pain whenever he eats, he can still walk to the bathroom but usually needs help as he’s a bit unsteady. Sleep is very disrupted.

He’s a stubborn man who doesn’t want to end up “crying in pain in bed“. He hates the idea of losing control. I tried to talk him into waiting until Friday (which would be more convenient for me) but he insists he can’t wait that long. And who am I to say? I’m not in his position. He’s definitely going downhill in the last week and there’s no hope of a cure, so who am I to insist he suffer longer? I think I would fight longer if it was me, but then again, who knows how I would feel when the time came? He’s fought a good fight through 3 1/2 years, most of it on chemo. He’s entitled to decide when enough is enough for him.

[bttrfly]

I'm so sorry to come hear and read this. I cannot imagine what either of you is going through. sending hugs and prayers to you both xoxoxo

[DnJ]

(((Hugs)))

kml, you are doing the right best thing. Honouring him in his death as in his life.

All my best.

D

[AndrewP]

{((kml+cmm))}

[Dawn70]

(((kml and cmm)))

Many thoughts and prayers headed your way.

[kml]

CMM died peacefully at home this afternoon with my oldest son and me holding his hands and the hospice doctor and nurse in attendance. Bless him on his journey.

[Dawn70]

Praying you find peace and comfort in the days ahead. God bless you and your son for being there with him.