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Maika #2925039 10/14/21 09:49 PM
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Truthfully it’s only frustrating for a man if you have nothing to offer and are trying to date out of your league.

According to studies by OkCupid and others, men are almost always trying to date out of their league!

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A quick google search will tell you that women will swipe on 1 out of every 200 guys. That tells me that they are trying to date out of their league too. That’s why some much frustration with OLD.

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When we looked specifically at sending the first message, we found one striking habit: everyone’s a reacher, meaning people tend to reach out to someone more attractive than they are. To put a number on it, men are reaching out to women 17 percentile points more attractive, and women contact men who are 10 percentile points more attractive.

Men more than women, according to OK Cupid. Their research also shows that women do not reach out first. When women do reach out first they get better connections.

LH19 #2925044 10/14/21 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bttrfly
funny bumble story. it's the app i test drove for a month before deciding OLD wasn't my bag, but when I first started on there I happened to be talking to my ex roommate from my early 20s, who is one of my oldest and dearest friends. she's a lot different from me and a true child of the 70s and a free spirit. love her to bits, so her response when I explained that it's an app where the women make the first move REALLY surprised me:

"I dunno, B ... are you SURE you want to be with a guy who wants the woman to make the first move? That really says something about a guy."
Did you explain to her that Bumble is set up to keep BF protected from the unwanted D-pick out of no where?
yup.
that answer didn't change her mind.


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Originally Posted by CWarrior
I respect butterfly's friend's preference for dating men who prefer Tinder over dating men who prefer Bumble.

On Tinder-style apps, for men maybe 33-67% of your messages go into the void, and you have to send more frequent messages to stay on top of womens' inboxes since many men are messaging them.

On Bumble-style apps, for men nearly 100% of your messages get replies and you don't have to send reminders. It's time-efficiency and the in-app depth of conversations that makes me prefer Bumble.

Choose one in Fall. Choose one in Winter. Find you. (:
I never said she preferred Tinder. She against OLD as a whole and an app where men are willing to wait for women in particular. I don't know what made you bring Tinder into the conversation as I didn't reference it in any way.


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Maika #2925048 10/15/21 12:27 AM
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Well to be fair, men have to wait for women to reach out on Bumble. Again the app was made so women have control over who is messaging them.

Sometimes I think CWs likes to belt out statistics.

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Originally Posted by Butterfly
. I don't know what made you bring Tinder into the conversation as I didn't reference it in any way.
I mentioned Tinder because if your friend is against apps where women make the first move, Tinder is the main alternative. I didn't realize your friend prefers not to online date. That makes more sense. More of us alpha-types offline. wink

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okay! I'll start a new thread when I start dating. This one has run its course. I'm doing good and it's been a wild ride since last week. Thanks everyone for knocking good sense into me.


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Originally Posted by LH19
Also since 95% of males are beta males myself included yeah you’re gonna see a high amount of betas on any site.

This comment surprised me!


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