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kml #2890331 03/24/20 10:25 PM
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And thank you for sewing the masks. They need them desperately. They are using one for the shift. A hospitalist who’s first day was today took his and put it in a brown paper bag for reuse.

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Originally Posted by kml
Median incubation period is something like 3-5 days BUT up to 24 days is apparently possible. We are all well and being very careful with handwashing and the like.

Andrographis has been studied in Dengue fever (which is a +ssRNA type virus like coronaviruses) so I am taking that, hoping it will have some value as a preventive. Coffee may also help according to a study on a different, milder coronavirus from last year.

How is your mom doing? Still can't believe your stupid cousin putting her at risk.



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It’s can be up to 8 days.


Thank you both. Same here with the hand washing etc.

Andrographis is in a formula that i've taken at onset of cold symptoms, but the bulk of the formula is echinacea and elderberry, (with a little ginger, probably as the activator). I'm now afraid to take it because of the alleged cytokine storm from elderberry with this virus. it's a product that I've purchased, not one I've made myself. I do think I have andrographis in tincture form. but not much ...

does it matter if the coffee is decaf? how much should we drink per day do you think?


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There's 200 mg of caffeic acid in a cup of coffee, the green coffee extract capsules I bought from Life Extension have 400 mg in a capsule with only 12 mg of caffeine so I imagine decaf should still have enough. A couple of cups a day should do you.

I found a nice journal article from 2002 showing that nicotinamide is a potent inhibitor of proinflammatory cytokines.

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Poor CMM is not tolerating this lockdown very well. I've done all the shopping. This morning he was complaining that I bought the "wrong" brand of disinfectant wipes - apparently Chlorox brand are cheap and flimsy compared to Lysol wipes. Of course I explained to him that these we what Costco happened to have while I was there so I bought them - they were out of toilet paper, lysol, paper towels, rubbing alcohol, but they actually had gotten in a load of wipes so I bought them (we weren't out but I knew my office needed some and we would need some more soon). With his OCD he seems to be having trouble processing the fact that it's cathc as catch can out there shopping - you take what you get.

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CMM doesn't have any real idea of what is going on out there in the world like you do. When you see something that you think you will need soon, you have to get it while you can. I have never seen anything like this. It must be very difficult for CMM right now. I really do feel for him because of his OCD.

How are you doing? How is your son doing?


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We're doing ok! Oldest son is still stocking grocery shelves at night but being very careful to wash his hands frequently and stay 6 feet away from us.

Middle son finally got a new job! He starts in 2 weeks and it's the job he really wanted, in a private practice with a large LGBTQ clientele, very close to his apartment. He'll be doing virtual visits for the near future. I'm relieved he'll finally be having an income coming in again since my ex was not helping me support him and I'm expecting some loss of income myself during this lockdown.

Youngest son pretty much stays home or takes the dog for walks, he's not an infection risk, I just try to keep him and CMM separated as they do not mix well and this quarantine doesn't help matters.

Most of my patients have been moved to virtual visits although I did see three this week in my office. None are sick but we take every precaution, masks, cleaning, distancing as best we can. I'm grateful to be able to keep the lights on and my employees paid so far.

Looking forward to a three day weekend, I'm going to try to do something fun at home, not sure what. And maybe take CMM out for a drive, think he's going stir crazy.

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glad you're well. the SBA ppp forms are due today if you want to apply for one to protect payroll xoxo


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Excellent news on the boys kml.

I can certainly imagine that CMM is like a hen sitting on an ant-hill right now feeling twitchy. Is there anything you can get him to organize for you? Maybe plan your adventure in a way that minimizes human contact / things shut down.

Stay safe.


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Yeah my business partners husband is sending me the forms ( although I don’t think they’re “due” today, today is the first day you can file them I think. Banks will be swamped.)

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Originally Posted by kml
Yeah my business partners husband is sending me the forms ( although I don’t think they’re “due” today, today is the first day you can file them I think. Banks will be swamped.)

that's why our accountant told us file asap


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A box full of darkness.
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