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kml #2893253 04/24/20 11:33 PM
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It’s possible to have two viral infections at the same time. It will be REALLY important for everyone to get their flu shots next fall - both to reduce additional burden on the healthcare system during what MAY be a second wave of Covid, and to protect yourself from the likely deadly combination of having influenza and CoVID at the same time.

Don, the 19 people were a cluster, not random people, all associated with one polling place and I believe a couple of poll workers there included. Epidemiologists can tell the difference and in fact can do super sophisticated DNA examinations to show the same sub strain is involved in all the people in a cluster. There are likely many more transmissions not detected because they didn’t involve as many people or simply nobody noticed. My guess is if they have one recognized cluster of 19 ( and still counting last I heard) that probably at least 100 people got infected at the polls that day. Unnecessarily.

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Strange thing we have encountered.... we hve this train wreck of a patient who is an illegal immigrant which means no benefits, is on HD and has one and half legs left, and is a horribly non-compliant diabetic which has lead him to the renal failure.

Anyways, we need to get him back to his home base dialysis center because he has no transport options for the one to the COVID positive unit. 3 consecutive negative tests will get home back.

One retest negative. The next day.... retest positive.

A decent amount of patients who are testing negatively, but are obvious classic COVIDs.

Testing is going to have get better real soon

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Yeah they’ve seen that in China - people testing negative then positive. I don’t know how much is testing error and how much is the virus - all four of my presumed Covid patients had a very weird up-and-down recovery; feeling really good one day, then way back down the next, off and on for a 2-3 weeks. It’s like their body is wrestling with the virus, some days they’re on top, some days it’s got them in a chokehold again. It’s really weird and definitely unlike any other virus I’ve ever seen.

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I like to say that the human body was put together in the dark by amateurs. It's surprising that they work at all laugh

Shame that you can't just shine a bright light on the insides and see first hand what's going on :P

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kml #2893303 04/25/20 04:02 PM
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T has it. His test came back inconclusive, yet he has so very many of the symptoms. His doctor said, "Stay home, you obviously have it."

He gets plasma infusions monthly to boost him flagging immune system (his IG panel is off and he's been getting infused for several years now)..

He began week 5 on Thursday. Each day he's sounded worse on our conversations. His doctor told him to expect 2-6 weeks of this.

I pray it doesn't get so bad he needs hospitalization.

I read about a 25 year old, the daughter of Tieraona LowDog, MD who recently posted about her battle with this illness. Google it, if you don't believe this is something that can affect anyone at any age.


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Lots of people have it but test negative, for a variety of reasons. If your friend sounds worse I hope he has a pulse oximeter to monitor his breathing.

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Originally Posted by kml
Lots of people have it but test negative, for a variety of reasons. If your friend sounds worse I hope he has a pulse oximeter to monitor his breathing.

of course not. he wouldn't let me get him one.
ugh
stubborn man!


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Ginger and kml,

Thank you for answering my question about patients having both COVID-19 and the flu at the same time. It just baffle me as to how the doctors/nurses could determine that she had both at the same time.


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There are tests for both flu and CoVID - presumably she tested positive for both.

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I don't know that many people and I know 2 that tested negative but later tested positive. Another clearly has it and they tested negative. My state is doing well now with social distancing. I had to go out to pick up some groceries and the stores were empty. We're past our peak day and while it's not a huge drop cases are down. I don't have stats on the hospital resources.

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