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was meant to be writing and giving her the apology letter


Why?


The objective is to take ownership of my behaviours and traits that were responsible for making her feel the way she felt. Showing empathy that I get how I made her feel, and I know that things have to change. That's it. Just I'm sorry for xxx which made you feel yyy, but using the words she has used to me rather than rewriting it in my words.

However, I was told to give this letter when things are on an upswing - I've blown that for a day or 2.

Plus, I know I shouldn't, but I still want to five the EAP a hard time... mad


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I tried something very, very similar. Didn't work for me. Who knows - she may accept it or look at it as some sort of crazy pursuit.


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Knowing mine, she'll see it as a way of validating that I'm the problem. But honesty is honesty.

So many people her had a M that was fine and then the spouse became an alien. We've always had the crazies. In fact I can pinpoint our first fight where I didn't put my foot down, basically apologised to her for her drunken, over the top ranting, and set the scene for the next 6 years.

I really do have some issues to resolve... personal boundaries 101.


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Oh, and due to my online nosing of Tacoma World (Jeep74 keeps mentioning it),


Join us, my friend. We have quite the collection of misfits.


I'll take a gander... although I have little enough time for one forum before I add another to the mix. smile


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I'll take a gander... although I have little enough time for one forum before I add another to the mix


Come over - I'll add you to the multi-chat going. I've never laughed so hard in my life...


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Originally Posted By: Jeep74
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I'll take a gander... although I have little enough time for one forum before I add another to the mix


Come over - I'll add you to the multi-chat going. I've never laughed so hard in my life...


Oversteer70 is my username


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http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2727125&page=11

Originally Posted By: Jeep74
Quote:
was meant to be writing and giving her the apology letter


Why?


The objective is to take ownership of my behaviours and traits that were responsible for making her feel the way she felt. Showing empathy that I get how I made her feel, and I know that things have to change. That's it. Just I'm sorry for xxx which made you feel yyy, but using the words she has used to me rather than rewriting it in my words.

However, I was told to give this letter when things are on an upswing - I've blown that for a day or 2.

Plus, I know I shouldn't, but I still want to five the EAP a hard time... mad


I have a really big philosophical and practical problem with some of this thinking woke up.

Firstly, you and I don't have the power to make anyone else feel anything. Gracious I can scarcely manage my own state most of the time. It's control and magical thinking, others do and feel as they do.

So, you can let yourself off the hook for this. It's a big deal when you let go of the need to be right and have the power over others. Truly it's releasing.

Let W feel whatever she wants to. It's her right and her choice not yours.

Sit by V and know this frees you to concentrate on you. It's a big job all on its own.

Just saying

V


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Originally Posted By: Woke_Up
Originally Posted By: Jeep74
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I'll take a gander... although I have little enough time for one forum before I add another to the mix


Come over - I'll add you to the multi-chat going. I've never laughed so hard in my life...


Oversteer70 is my username


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You're in. Welcome to the ragtag band of misfits. No DB talk allowed. haha


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