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Originally Posted by Steve85
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This is so hard. I actually feel the life being sucked out of me. I am going to do my best not to go. I am actually having IC anyway.


Just tell her flatly and simply.

"I’ve decided against going to marriage counseling. I feel that it would just be going through the motions at this point. I’m going to start individual counseling on my own. A lot has happened and I need help processing it so I can heal and move forward."


Steve85, can this kick you in the rear by the spouse saying, "well, if you don't go to marriage counseling then clearly you aren't interested in saving the marriage so what's the point?"


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Originally Posted by oceangrl
Originally Posted by Steve85
Originally Posted by Budvegas
This is so hard. I actually feel the life being sucked out of me. I am going to do my best not to go. I am actually having IC anyway.


Just tell her flatly and simply.

"I’ve decided against going to marriage counseling. I feel that it would just be going through the motions at this point. I’m going to start individual counseling on my own. A lot has happened and I need help processing it so I can heal and move forward."


Steve85, can this kick you in the rear by the spouse saying, "well, if you don't go to marriage counseling then clearly you aren't interested in saving the marriage so what's the point?"


Wait. So you are worried about what the person that has already told you that they aren't interested in saving the marriage thinks? This is called ATTACHMENT. It is the opposite of what you should be: detached.

ocean, think about it this way. If you were dating a guy, and 5 dates in he went, "Eh, you know, I really don't want to be in a relationship with you." What would you do? Would you start throwing yourself at him? Calling him non-stop? Pushing yourself on him? Wanting to attend couples counseling with him? OF course not! You'd have a healthy outlook of "I don't want to be with someone that doesn't want to be with me!"

Our sitches are no different. The WAS has said, loud and clear, "I don't want to be in a relationship with you!" It is unhealthy to respond to that by throw yourself at them, call them non-stop, push yourself on them. Or attend counseling with them. As DR says, you should have an "as if" attitude towards them.

People want what they can't have. The sooner Budvegas starts moving on without her the more of a chance she will wake-up and go "WHAT THE HECK AM I DOING!?!?"


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Hoosjim cracks me up, I love the humorous spin he puts on it but he still busts the nail with his hammer! Good advice!

I understand your reluctance to back out after she set something up. A good compromise might be to go to the first session and then afterwards tell her something along the lines of LH's suggestion (W I’ve thought about it and have decided that if you are not willing to work on our marriage that attending MC would be a waste of time and money.)

EDIT- Just saw Steve's response, I really like that one as well:

"I’ve decided against going to marriage counseling. I feel that it would just be going through the motions at this point. I’m going to start individual counseling on my own. A lot has happened and I need help processing it so I can heal and move forward."

Telling her you need IC before MC is a great idea. It takes the MC pressure off, and it allows you to work on yourself and leave her alone.

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Freaking out a bit. She made it very clear that she is using the MC to talk about next steps (telling the kids, living arrangements, house etc)

This has been less than 2 weeks for me and I said that it is all going too quick.....she has said it is going to slow.

I am literally losing my mind

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Just so you know it is ok to go to the divorce facilitator if you think it well help you and the kids in the dissolving of the marriage.

Just don’t call it marriage counseling because it isn’t.

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I’m not an expert here but I went through a similar spot when I
Got the BD a few months ago.

It was on and I couldn’t stop it. W wanted a separation on paper, tell
Kids, etc. We didn’t need MC for that. It was my worst fear and I am alive still.
I hate it but haven’t given up.

I don’t think the MC is going to matter either way in your case. If it was me at the time
I would have gone. W was smart enough to know it wouldn’t help and maybe hurt at the time
If BD.

I felt so rushed but things did slow down after. Be glad you are here early.

I begged, pleaded, moped around, etc. at first.

Let her do it and start working on yourself.

See how it goes and take it slow. I would only say
To hold your ground and don’t make any really bad
Decisions on emotions right now.

It’s fast right now but will slow up and you will be able to assess more clearly over time.

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I totally get where you are. I was there a few months ago. You have more time than you think. You don't need to fix this today. The sooner you start implementing the strategies here, the sooner you will feel better.

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Thanks LH19 thinking of it as Facilitator does help a bit.

Greenman - Where are you at in your DBing?

I have started to make sure I go out if I can, this is tough when we have 2 kids.
I haven't begged or pleaded since BD and have tried to be as upbeat as possible...other than last night.

She is also saying she needs space, this is tough as we are both (at the moment) in the same house. Albeit in separate rooms.

I am about a quarter of the way through the DR book....I have never read so quick.

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Hi BV,
You're in a tough spot. Its easy to be anxious, out of control and at times hopeless. All normal feelings for your sitch. Many of us have been there. I have 2 kids under 4 and can relate.

I can tell you that my W pushed hard for mediation and D at first as well. She wanted it as quick as possible. She wanted space and asked me to leave the house. Well its been 5 months and no D, no mediation and we both live in the house in limbo. Just because your W feels a way in this current moment, doesnt mean it may not change day by day.

No matter the outcome you've work to do on yourself and thats what DB is for.

Keep working on you. Your mind is spinning which is normal. It'll take time to get back to your baseline then build on it. With the help of the people here, you wont be at it alone.


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Thanks again for the advice and support.

I know she is going to push to tell the kids. I feel like we should tell them something as I have been in the spare room for nearly 2 weeks.

What has everyone else done in this sitch? Kids are 10 and 8

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