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roist #2722715 12/24/16 06:40 AM
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Hi Roist,
Wise words and compassionate ones. It's often so much easier for us to be compassionate towards our loved ones rather than ourselves.

I hope you have a joyous Christmas and a New Year filled with peace and serenity! xoxoxoxo


M 20+ T25+
S ~15.5 (BD)
BD 4/6/15
D 12/23/16

"Someone I loved once gave me
A box full of darkness.
It took me years to understand,
That this too, was a gift."
~ Mary Oliver
roist #2722716 12/24/16 06:45 AM
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merry xmas to you and your family!

I will be tipping a glass for you and your wife and kids...to my Brother from across the pond!


M - 40's
W - 30's
Two Sons
Living together
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Thanks bttrfly and my old friend Z.

I listened to a speach about stress recently and I exhibit every single sign of stress mentioned!! My head is relatively calm and definitely not spinning but I guess that is not enough. So I started relooking at stress and what one can do about it. I want to include it in my 2017 revamped action plan that is under construction.

Anyway I came across single nostril and alternative nostril breathing techniques. I think many here could benefit from looking into that. Not only is it supposed to be very good in the long term ( multiple reasons) but I found it helps me IMMEDIATELY. So I wanted to share it with my cyber friends

Heading out to friends for lunch so I gotta go.

Best wishes everyone


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together
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Best wishes for the new year.

Let's make it a good one.


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together
roist #2723608 01/01/17 07:04 AM
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Happy New Year! I agree, let's make it a good one.


Sit quietly, the answers will reveal themselves when you least expect them to.
The past is gone, the present is a gift and you need to focus on today, allow the future to reveal itself when it is ready.
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Happy new year Roist x


"There's nothing sadder than a conman conning himself"

“There is freedom waiting for you,
On the breezes of the sky,
And you ask "What if I fall?"
Oh but my darling,
What if you fly?”

-Erin Hanson





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Each day I say things in my head as if saying to you guys but I don't take the time to actually write. There is not much to say about my W and or us. Life goes on. It is not a good life, but this year I am determined to change that. I will do all I can within the confines of my situation. There is so much more I can squeze into my life. A good friend of mine here (Zephyr) has pointed out that I am holding myself back. He is not wrong.

This year I have so many goals and actions that I will take but the year has started by some external stresses/issues. These have taken my focus time and energy. Last year or probably any other year I would have been crippled by these. Heck back when depressed I would by contemplating suicide. But this year I am struggling forward finding solutions and taking actions.

My outlook on stuff has changed. For example this weekend our heater broke. I found solutions to heating the house and worked on finding a solution. It took a lot of my time sat/sun but I got it going again.
I actually glad of the situation. I understand better now the workings of the heating system and that pleases me. I would have preferred doing something else but I benefited from the problem.

During all this my W made comments about it being the worst weekend ever, a comment she made about NYE too. I tried to validate her frustration but did have to tell her to speak to me in a different manner a few times. I may have been a bit short with her but I didn't get sucked into a fight.

I can see, hear and feel that my W is not happy. I feel for her. I know how she feels. I came across a letter I wrote to myself almost TEN years ago. Even back then things weren't great between us. I was slipping into my.depression and didn't realise it. Maybe being unhappy about us contributed to being depressed. I think so.

I ended my letter by telling myself that the first step was to establish a better situation with my W and then have fun. Looking back we never looked deep to finding a better way in our R. I don't think our M problems date back TEN years but there were some cracks. Plus I was unhappy with us. Unhappy with how we got along, not us being a couple.

A few years after that letter I hit rock bottom with depression and since I have been a LBS. I am just stating facts and not blaming myself. But the more I look back the further back go those cracks. I never had rose coloured spectacles looking back on our R but will admit seeing a future with those spectacles.

Finding that letter today made me nostalgic and also wonder about how the last ten years have been for my W. Not great apparently.But for whatever reason she hasn't left.at least not physically. That is great but eventually that will not be enough for me.

Her parents seem to be living a similar situation.Her mother seems to live in another room. Her dad was/is depressed. They both ooze of resentment towards each other. I have worked hard to remove my resentment with relative success. I am not bitter against my W but not happy with our situation. I have beaten my depression.My IC once commented that my W's issues with me could really be about her dad. Idk but I have cleaned up that part of me.

That was a long ramble. Thanks for reading.

Best wishes


R 25 years
M 14 years
S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together
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Esame thanks for dropping by and for wishing me a happy new year


R 25 years
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S11 & S13
Working on it alone since Oct 2014
M in trouble a lot earlier (~2 years)
Feb 2016. 1st R chat in a yr.
Next R chat Aug'17
Still together
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Great post roist...thanks for hitting me up on my thread.

God bless.


Me 49 W46
T25 M22
S22 D18 S13
W had EA Apr-Jul 2016
Dropped Bomb 7/9/16
ILYBINILWYA
HER DIVORCE IS FINAL...8/18/17
Dropping the rope to SURVIVE & THRIVE!!!
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Originally Posted By: roist
for whatever reason she hasn't left.at least not physically. That is great but eventually that will not be enough for me.


I hear you and understand, roist. But don't give up! Let her know what you want and then back off. She is likely to surprise you when you least expect it.

I think you have a good handle on this stuff. You don't want to end up living in resentment like her parents. You got this, roist. Bust On!


M: A really long time.
Crisis: 5 years.
She's still worth it.

Life is never made unbearable by circumstances, but only by lack of meaning and purpose. -Viktor Frankl
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