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Hi,

My last post was nearly 8 months ago and, not sure why but, I come back periodically to post an update. That...will probably end at some point.

My kids were infants/toddlers at the start of this back in 2006. My son now has a deep voice and I say to myself 'who is that strange man on the phone' when he calls. I can see the thicker hairs coming in on his legs and the little boy that clung so tightly to me during this ordeal is steadily becoming a man. Similarly, my daughter is now putting on mascara, is getting taller and she, too, is going through changes (not to mention becoming sassier too).

Divorce was the right thing for us. Not all relationships can be saved. However, the main piece of advice I can give everyone is to keep the children first. A friend of mine once said to me during the thick of all this that each time you talk against your spouse (or ex-spouse) in front of your children, it's like 'sticking a knife in their back'. Well, he was right. Make it about the kids.

At least in my state, men get the short end of the stick in divorce. The woman is seen as the better parent. Although I have joint custody and probably have the most parenting time of any father in this state, the residential parent ultimately has 'control'. Sometimes, as men, we have to make decisions which to us, make us feel emasculated. Situations, make us feel similarly (what man wants to ask 'permission' for his kids to sleep over when they want to)when HE is a parent too? It's the way it goes. It's the law. You have to work it.

Once, I read a story here that a man went on a vacation with his ex and SHE brought her new BF with her. I could never do that. HOWEVER, I now understand ( a little) the basis of this. Recently, my son had an event to go to upstate. It was a family type thing so my ex went as well. We were in the same hotel and totally by chance, she had the room next door. The rooms had locked doors between the two. During the week, we left the doors unlocked so the kids could go back and forth between each parent. We ate at the same table. Even went to dinner with a married couple since the kids were close friends. The dinner was VERY uncomfortable, especially when the other married couple, who knew we were divorced, asked my ex how we met. Oddly, my ex starts to go on and on as if we were still married. Although comfortable around her now, I had to turn towards my toward and help her cut up her food.

Time heals. Anger fades. Although I have NO doubt that if a conflict arose, my ex would use the kids against me, this seems to be a thing of the past for right now. The man she met and immediately brought into the home of our young kids has been cast off. It lasted about a year. A transition dude. The only that bothered me about the whole thing is that she brought him into the house so quickly instead of using her non-parenting days. The kids once told me that they cried many nights in the beginning.

As for me, I've gotten too comfortable being single. I enjoy the time with my kids and having peace and quiet around the house (er apartment). I have to get off my butt and start dating again before the 'use it or lose it' cliche becomes permanent. Although my sister tells me that other people think that my ex will want back, it would never happen from my point of view. What's done is done and I, for one, am not prone to make mistakes twice. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..........

Enjoy your kids. Be in the moment with them. Make it about them.

FIB
Great post and advice,

I'm about to be divorced and need to see something like this.
FIB -
there was definitely nothing about your wife's behavior during the whole thing that would suggest you should EVER trust her again.

I'm glad for your sake though that the original OM is out of the picture. It's a lot easier to deal with them dating someone who wasn't the OP. (My ex is remarrying soon, but he didn't start dating this particular woman until a year after we separated, so I don't have any particular animosity towards her - I'm just glad it wasn't one of his affair partners.)

I applaud you for putting your kids first. Even though my kids are in their 20's, and I've dated several men in the 4 1/2 years since my marriage blew up, they are only now meeting a man I am dating. Even at their age, it's hard for them.

Nonetheless - it IS time you stepped off the plate and started dating, or you may sink into something I've seen too much of - 50-something men who have become content to be hermits, occasionally dating when their flagging libidos flare up, but otherwise keeping women at arms length.

Just dip your toe in - honest, the water's a bit choppy, but you get used to it wink
Thanks KML....an original. And always with good advice. I agree. Sorta interesting about the OP, but, I never had an issue with it. The only tough times were when she brought him to the ball field when S12 was playing. He knew his place and always kept at distance and moved even further away when X and I discussed how he did in the game.

It's funny how much you recalled from the original stuff...her craziness, etc. All past now.

To brobafet. Hang tough buddy. Each day gets better. You'll see that, as time goes by SOME marriages couldn't, shouldn't be saved. The thing that's good about being here is that, along the way, it helps you to decide which way. Just be careful that some posters will keep you in a bad M.

My D atty was amazing. At the end of my D, she asked me 'why do you want to save the marriage?' If I recall, my response was, "for the kids". Her response was, "that's the reason you WANT the divorce". Hanging for long periods of time in a destructive relationship hurts your children, BADLY. Once couples start going outside of the M, it is rare, if at all, it can be saved.

You'll be fine broba. 4 OM...is a lot. She did the right thing for both of you. FIB
Hi FIB!
K
Hi Kalni....are you still here? Are things better? FIb
Now why....after all these years...would my ex wife send in the kids with a piece of fresh baked apple pie that she just made????? LOLOLOL
I wouldn't touch that pie with a twenty foot pole! Does she think you are the crazy one?!

kat
Because she's nuts!
What a flashback....

FIB....I hope you are well, and didn't partake in the Pie trick LOL

And looky there....

How the heck are YOU Frank ???

It's been a long time...
Originally Posted By: faithisbelieving
Now why....after all these years...would my ex wife send in the kids with a piece of fresh baked apple pie that she just made????? LOLOLOL


Don't eat it!!! The first thing that came to my mind was the scene in the movie "The Help"! grin
Hey Mach1, I'm doing ok. Had my ups and downs but now things are calming down.

Came back to this site because I was kind of missing when I was being helpful to others.

Frank
Originally Posted By: frank_D
Hey Mach1, I'm doing ok. Had my ups and downs but now things are calming down.

Came back to this site because I was kind of missing when I was being helpful to others.

Frank


Well it's good to see you kickin up dust here again...

I am glad that things are well with you...

You are a good man ...

Your Daughters doing good ??
Daughters are doing well. They live with their mom and her boyfriend.
I hope you didnt eat that cake, the silence is worrying me...
I am not "here" anymore. But I do read once every 2-3 months and when I see old friends I have to say hi. I owe a lot og guys on here, SOOOOO much, including my sanity.
I am fine. We are doing better. We are...happy I guess. Weird, huh?
Hope you are ok,
K
I was just thinking of you, FIB. Its Brookie. Hope you are doing well, my friend. smile
Great post!

Glad to see you are doing well FIB.

Oh as for the dating thing... take your time.
Is there a state where men don't get the short end of the stick in court?
I got 50/50 custody and the same on expenses in Illinois, so I would say yes.
Clinging to Hope

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Is there a state where men don't get the short end of the stick in court?


I also have a 50/50 custody arrangent in Connecticut.

Stick to your guns. Do not agree to things that you do not want to.
I also received a 50/50 custody split here in Virginia.

BA
My ex just asked for the standard visitation. As uncomfortable as my kids were with OW and all the pain they were going through I wasn't going to push him for more time. He also is becoming if it is still convenient he will do it sort of Dad.

He does pay child support and that is about the only area I give him credit for. So women weren't out to screw over their ex's so much as the walk away spouse putting it to the left behind one.

kat
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Hi all,

Doing well. Kids getting big. Ex loosened her grip on the kids. FIB
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