1. The Road Not Taken
TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth; 5
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same, 10
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back. 15
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. 20
So it only makes sense to start a new thread as things in my life are definitely changing. I would like to think I have lived my life by taking the less traveled path as at heart I am one for adventure.
So join me won't you as we set out on the road less traveled by...
kat
FIRST!!!!!!! Coffee with Bailey's please!
Ok but I will have to make a brand new pot since it is morning! lol
I made the assumption that everyone knows the poet and didn't give him his do. Robert Frost hats off to you.
Oh what is up with me today? Still a goober and still giddy from yesterday.
Posting my favorite poem didn't magically calm me down.
kat
"You should never have to walk on eggshells in your own life." - kat727
Nope, you shouldn't. But if you do, you can heal from it. And for those who have caused others to 'walk on eggshells'...they can heal too. I'm just sayin'...
I just got really tired of changing everything I did based on what someone's reaction might be. Certainly no way to live your life. I was reading some of my older posts the other day, I was really holding out hope...but here I am and I think this is a pretty good place to be.
Now if I could just find a housecleaning fairy that cleaned the house overnight...
kat
Understood.
I've studied Steven Stosney's book Love Without Hurt a bunch. It describes, to a T, the things you went through and felt because of having to walk on eggshells.
It also describes the things I went through and felt because of causing those that I cared for to have to walk on eggshells.
It also promotes healing for the abused, and the abuser. The book was a Godsend for me, via Bridgestone.
These bad things happened, unfortunately...doesn't mean they can't be overcome. But both people have to be willing...sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't.
I certainly didn't see him trying to stay with our family. He is engaged and living with his affair partner now. As long as he leaves me alone and is watching out for the kids when they are under his care, I really don't have much to do with him.
I coped with it because in my mind, the man I married died. What was left was an alien walking around in his body. I could look at lots of things now and say maybe we shouldn't have gotten married, had four kids etc, but those things DID happen. I have got wonderful kids from the relationship. I gave it all I had, he didn't, end of story.
Better things are ahead and I know to look for the things that are important to me in my next relationship. Not every relationship needs to be serious, some are just for fun and learning. That is where I find myself now.
kat
And not a bad place to be!
(((Kat)))
I definitely need coffee this am! I SO did not want to get out of bed and face this gloomy, gray, overcast, rainy, cold day.
I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. Sounds like you got a good handle on things now. Good luck to you.
Oh can't we throw in the hot chocolate too!
You guys know I don't drink coffee but sure let me make you some because I hate the idea of you being cold Michelle!
Thanks antlers. I might need that luck.
K went out with his family last night and the pictures he posted were dark. Maybe they were trying to hide his age or thought that all the candles would be enough light for the room!! I really hope he can work Friday out. Can you all tell I am smitten??
kat
Oh, just slightly.....
Ok....I'll take a hot chocolate instead of coffee. Make it fat-free please.
Come on Mish this is virtual...go for the real stuff with lots of whip cream!! If you want we can mix coffee in with it. It is supposed to get up to nearly 80 today but it is going to be windy. My office is always cold so anything warm sounds good.
Haven't a clue why I am in a good mood but I am so there!
kat
Just got a text from K that even though he isn't 100% sure of Friday, he thinks he can make it.
Gee I hope my gooberness isn't showing via my cell phone :
kat
LOL cute, my son and I love the word Goober!
and I am sure K things you are FAR from a goober lol
Have a wonderful Friday!!!
Spent quite a while texting back and forth with K. Figuring out half way...there isn't anything there!! lol I may end up driving further which is fine since he may be driving to OK later that night to take his daughter to a concert. All of this for pizza!!
kat
It better be some awesome pizza!!!
LOL!
Dang, it better be MORE than pizza!!
kat
Figuring out half way...there isn't anything there!!
kat
Maybe you could pick up the pizza on the way and meet at the 'nothing there' halfway point. Turn it into a picnic in a park or field. LOL.
Good for you Kat!
Unless my radar is way off, he does like me. Get someone else to cover the business while he is gone, driving 1.5 hours just to see me...this is wonderfully insane!!
kat
You sound surprised? Why wouldn't he?
Exactly my question to kat NC....why wouldn't he????
I don't know. Why does S not fall all over himself to get to me when I know he likes me? (Well in that case I know the answer). Just insecurities about myself. I am hung up on my figure issue at the moment though I know that is improving. My self esteem was really down there for a while but luckily was already on its way back up when K started connecting with me. I know we aren't kids anymore and we have both grown up a lot.
I know he had been thinking about me quite a bit since his accident 5 years ago. I just hope he doesn't have rose colored glasses on when it comes to me. I really need to take this one day at a time and not jump ahead. Really hard for me because I do plan way too much.
I want to get to the point where I know I am good enough to have this happen. Just feel as if I am on a wobbly ladder on this last point.
kat
Hey sister, if he is going to that much trouble, it sure ain't for the pizza...cause you can get that stuff delivered, ya know...
Ok I am in goober mode as well today, so be warned!
My room is always freezing too! It was 75 yesterday and I was shivering in my room! Had on a cute dress but needed a sweater cause my arms were so cold!
Hope you are having a good day...the week is half over!
Thanks Hon. Actually I am just past half because we are closed for Good Friday, thus the date.
Aren't you guys out too?
What an awesome day, supposed to get up to mid 80's!! Of course, still an ice box in here. Oh and you are welcome to be a goober with me anytime!
kat
Unless my radar is way off, he does like me. Get someone else to cover the business while he is gone, driving 1.5 hours just to see me...this is wonderfully insane!!
kat
I am insanely happy for you!!!
As I am for you. You better be spilling those beans later! I will be home about 5:30.
kat
We need another forum for you two now. You're "thriving", not just "surviving".
I think so too. Hopefully they just won't kick us off of here.
You can guess we sound like a bunch of college students talking about there latest date but with a lot more past experience thrown in. lol
Even a year ago, I don't think I would have "saw" myself here. I am so lucky that you all hung in there with me.
kat
Yep Kat, we are actually off school Thurs as our 'conference comp day'....and Friday for Easter, so today IS my Friday!
They won't kick you out and we don't want you to go! Nice to hear from people who are out there enjoying life and cute guys.
What I think is so funny is to go into this just wanting to have fun and ok, maybe a boyfriend, but I know I am not looking for marriage right now. Boy that takes so much pressure off! Whew!
He does make me feel special in all these little ways and well some that are are larger gestures. I haven't had that in a really long time. I think we all could use some of that.
And I am not planning on going anywhere until we all get through this.
kat
Well, K prob. does have on the rose-colored glasses, but maybe you have them on too. I mean you both have flaws and will see them in time, but I do think when you love someone you tend to have rose-colored glasses on and keep them on...
I'm glad you're having fun. You have a great attitude now, and maybe you're just ready to have it work out. You deserve every bit of a wonderful guy who spoils you like you deserve!!!
I was so exhausted last night. Went to bed early which was a good thing. Yet, I was so dead to the world, I didn't hear my phone ring out that I had two messages. Both from K. The first says he will be able to make it tomorrow. My heart does some back flips.
The second is all flirt and even mentions a birthday suit.
I am laughing and nervous at the same time. I reply that I don't think most places would let you in wearing that suit.
Seems like the time is upon me to take that leap of faith I am always talking about. Deep breath, eyes closed...here I go!
kat
EXCITEMENT!!!! Just be yourself and you'll be golden!
And nerve racking!! I am trying to think of things to keep me really busy but keep getting distracted!!(wonder why?) lol
Deep breaths.
kat
Awesome, Kat! Finally some anxiety of the GOOD variety for you!!
Have FUN!!! You so deserve it.
Kat,
Have a wonderful day tomorrow! It's really going to be "Good" Friday for you.
I am starting to catch a Spring cold darn it. All that lack of sleep over the past couple of weeks reminding me that I do need to take care of myself.
Still excited about today though. We are meeting around 11. I want to be back around the time the kids get home so I can see them before they 1) go to work and 2) head off to my parents to spend the night. It will be a quiet night too, just me and S14.
I'll let you know how it goes. Cross your fingers for me and wish me luck!!
kat
*fingers crossed*
(((Kat)))
It turned out really well. I was a tad late because we had some really bad storms just outside of Topeka and all the way to Kansas City. Once I got past that it wasn't too bad and I was just 10 minutes late but I did call him a good 15 minutes ahead of time to let him know I was running late.
Talked and ate for a couple of hours. Went over my taxes, showed me around the little town and ended up being together for about 6 hours! So much for being home early. I had a fantastic time. I also think as I said before we are on the same page, so that works.
kat
I just have to make a quick comment: If you ever have the opportunity to make out in a gentle rain, yes outside, do it. It is pretty cool and dare I say romantic.
kat
Kat, that sounds wonderful!! I'm not surprised to hear things went well. Kissing anywhere at this point sounds romantic!!!
NICE!!!!!! Kissing is a definite plus but making out in a soft rain? DYNAMITE!!!! So happy for you and glad you had a great time.
Kat...I am so jealous!!!!
But yay for you. I have danced in the rain once in college, that was awesome and while it was happening I made a mental note to take it in...but never kissed in it. That is a little fantasy of mine, too! No fair!
So glad you had a great date....
Kat,
Good for you. I am glad you had a wonderful time in KC. I just got my computer sorted out and sent you a msg in the alternative world. You deserve all the happiness you can get.
Take Care,
Tom
Thanks guys. It was pretty cool. We were talking about what we each wanted to happen when we met for lunch, well besides lunch that is. I told him that I saw us kissing while leaning against his car. So he just said ok, lets do it! Even though it was raining, he didn't care. No wonder it was so romantic in "The Notebook"!!
We talked a lot which I know is a girl thing but it was really good because we were both saying what we wanted. He was even saying that so many people that he knew griped how so much seemed to go out of their relationship once they got married. We thought that was because people stopped making dates and taking the time for each other. We were probably both guilty of that too.
Oh well we are just taking this one step at a time. That is a bit harder than I thought it might be but I am focusing on that. Slow is a good thing.
kat
Sigh!!!! I want to get kissed...
I did too!! 2 years and 4 months is a long time!! What was so funny is that after we drove around he found a place out by a lake to park and go over my taxes. He said we are going to go over your taxes and then make out! So we went over my taxes, I signed everything and then he said "OK let's make out"! We both just laughed and said that was really awkward. Just gave it a few minutes and everything kind of came back.
Neither of us wanted to go home. Maybe it was a good thing that we picked a place half way between our homes.
kat
Oooooh!
(((kat)))
What fun!
Is it so strange that I would love to go back to last Friday or even that night in Branson? I know it will be fun ahead too but there is something so nice about those first few times of reconnecting.
He will be in KC in a couple of weeks and I am hoping he will want to/be able to see me then.
kat
That is a good reminder to us all not to rush things, and to enjoy them as they happen!
<humming Keith Urban's song "I Want To Kiss A Girl">
<humming Keith Urban's song "I Want To Kiss A Girl">
Now you have me wondering what that sounds like and I can't access youtube here!! BJ did you realize he is going to be at the Country Stampede in Manhattan??
K likes country and has met several performers. OMG I am considering going somewhere to listen to country music!! Oh now we know something is wrong with me! LOL
kat
Yes! I really, really want to go to the Stampede this year!!! I like Keith but Gary Allan is my #1 sexy country guy!
Give country a try, I can suggest a few artists/songs if you tell me what other music you like. Country is pretty diverse from twang to sappy, to pop, to rockin', you name it I can find something you'd like, promise!
I am really liking Daughtry right now. I do like Shania, Faith Hill and the Dixie Chicks. Do NOT like the twangy stuff. So I guess I like that stuff that is considered cross-over music.
I will really listen to that song after I get home from taking the kids to the movies and watching the final basketball game.
kat
Here are a few to listen to/check out:
Jason Aldean:
Johnny Cash (that is the name of the song)--good rockin' fun
The Truth (moving, good song)
Gary Allan:(my imaginary bf!)
Songs About Rain
The One--THE song I want some man to sing to me someday!!
Get Off on the Pain (yeah he's kind of dark but I find it sexy!)
If you like Dixie Chicks, try this tough chica:
Miranda Lambert:
Kerosene--toe tappin/stompin fun/sassy!
White Liar--Dan's ringtone
The House That Built Me (quiet, slow but beautiful song)
What kinds of Rock do you like, Kat? A lot of the great rockers and main-streamers of the past have moved over to Country in recent years. The Eagles, Darius Rucker, Bon Jovi, Jewel, Sheryl Crow, just to name a few. It's now a pretty big tent. I'm sure it wouldn't take long before you'd find something you'd like.
(I myself had been resisting Country for most of my life, but I've found all the artists and musical styles I like have tended to migrate there already over the years. Modern Country is their home now, and I have come to prefer it.)
I love the Eagles and Hootie can't go too far from the Blowfish can he? Daughtry even has a couple songs on there latest album that might be considered crossover. Be patient with me on this, I am just dipping my toe in the water!
I prefer easy listening, pop rock and even classical music. We will see where this leads me.
kat
Darius Rucker--Hootie--Check out "Don't Think I Don't Think About It", "Alright", "It Won't Be Like This For Long" very good...
Will do but I may have to get those in tomorrow as tonight looks bery busy!
thanks! kat
What? Busy? What KIND of busy????
Basketball busy I think.
kat - Keith Urban is a guitar GOD! If you get a chance to see him in concert....DO IT! He rocks hard! Have you seen my pics of him on FB?
Gee now my fingers are getting crazy and I typed bery instead of very!! Silly me. Now don't get all worked up, nothing of that sort(but boy don't I wish!). The girls were upset that I didn't take them to a movie but I was sick all weekend. I wasn't going anywhere I didn't have too.
So tonight going to the movies and then home to watch basketball. Even though K is his own boss I don't think he would just show up. He is really busy with taxes right now and even on Friday night he was working at least until 11:30. Gee spend 4 hours driving round trip and see me for 6 hours(I had this part too) but then work on top of that and all day Saturday too. Nope I just don't see it happening at least not right now.
Mish, I thought I had but I will look again. Don't sign me up for all things country yet!
kat
Ok so now I have made plans for tomorrow night with J, my friend. He has some running todo so most likely just to grab a drink and catch up kind of thing. He knows about K, not everything but enough.
I haven't seen him in about 3 weeks so time to catch up a bit. We do text basketball back and forth though! lol
kat
Ok you know you have been flipping between FB and DB too much when you start looking for a "like" button at the bottom of a post...
But for the record....LIKE!
You are too funny BJ. I just figured I stay at home way too much. J is going to start coaching ball soon and then I will hardly ever get a chance to see him.
I can get out without the kids in tow if I want to! Sound like a little tantrum huh? No, I just don't have the kids tomorrow and after being stuck in the house all weekend, I want to get out.
Create the life you want, right?
kat
Absolutely. At the All State Festival, the master of ceremonies quoted George Bernard Shaw,
“Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”So go out there and live, baby!
No one says you have to have your kids 24/7 to be a great mom.
We have got to meet up some time! 3 hours at this point is no big deal. I think I am going to get used to meeting half way or driving at least some. Thanks for being such a joy to chat with!
kat
Darn Duke!! I was sooo wanting Butler to win and they had their chances.
Anyway to back to day to day stuff until next fall. This morning as I was getting ready, I listened to the Keith Urban song. Are you sure that was country?? More of a pop song to me.
I might have to check a few more out.
Caught the guy in front of me watching me sing along with my CD. Kind of funny but fun too.
kat
See?? Country purists hate the new crossover stuff, but I enjoy any music, as long as I think it is good, who cares what you label it?
Lady Antebellum is a big favorite group of mine. Their first CD has a ton of relationship-related songs and I love it!! My favorite "if-I-ever-get-to-make-out-again-I-want-this-song-on" song is on that CD!
Anyway just try a new song or two each day and pretty quickly you will figure out who grows on you!
Definitely will have to come and visit you! Maybe if you decide you like a few of the acts I could come down during Stampede. I will get my own hotel though in case you have a certain other country-loving visitor...
Hootie is going to be there too! Or should I say Darius Rucker(is that his real name? sorry if I have it wrong). Well I am willing to open my mind a bit so here I go. LOL
Yep, you could come down and we could go together if you want. Need to look at the schedule.
kat
One of my favs is Brad Paisley. That guy has SUCH a freakin sense of humor (he writes almost all his own stuff). Songs like Alcohol, Ticks, I'm Gonna Miss her (aka The Fishing Song).
Toby Keith definitely is more rock in a lot of his songs.
I'm going to the Stagecoach Music Festival with my xSIL in a few weeks. 2 days of warm southern California desert weather (it's one of the festivals held at the Indio Fairgrounds) and probably a sunburn LOL.
I don't know about his songs but he is darn cute and Kimberly Williams is one lucky girl!
Not sure I want to go anywhere near Toby Keith...
I don't get along with the heat real well so I guess it is better you than me out in the CA sun. LOL though I am sure you will have a blast!
kat
I don't know about his songs but he is darn cute and Kimberly Williams is one lucky girl!
Not sure I want to go anywhere near Toby Keith...
I don't get along with the heat real well so I guess it is better you than me out in the CA sun. LOL though I am sure you will have a blast!
kat
FYI-When I went to Stampede in '98, it was 87 degrees all three days, not a cloud in the sky...good thing I had a VIP pass, unlimited food/water/pop/beer. Helps to be hydrated!
Last years Stagecoach wasn't too bad. It never hit triple digits. I think the high was only like 94. It gets pretty chilly at night though. I'll have to check the weather as it gets closer although it won't change my packing much - 1 jean skirt for if it's over 90, jeans for when it's not, underthings, 3 shirts, 1 sweater (maybe my jean jacket), boots, flip flops, sleeping bag, and my hygiene kit.
Why not Toby Keith? Too wild for you?
I just checked and Keith Urban and Darius Rucker are on the 25th of June(Friday). Boy the VIP tickets are expensive!! I will have to think on this one.
BJ are you interested at all in Daughtry? They will be at the Sprint Center the end of May. I missed them in Topeka when they opened the tour.
kat
Yep I like Daughtry. Much like Lady Antebellum, most of his music seems to describe moments in my life...
Ya know, I think that's what gets me about music. It has to be meaningful lyrics. I don't care if it's Sting, Metallica, Kid Rock, Reba, or Garth Brooks. It just has to be musical (i.e not most c-rap LOL) and have good lyrics!
Are you guys still in school the end of May? The concert is May 25th which is a Tuesday.
Michelle come fly out here and we can make it a party!! I don't like rap for the most part and not twangy country for sure. I certainly want to understand what they are singing and sometimes I just can't! I blame part of that on hearing loss from my flight attendant days and the rest on the people singing! LOL
My last concert was Van Halen. I had bought them for ex and I when we were still married and he hadn't filed yet. Ended up taking S17 to his first concert instead.
kat
Here I went and became a goober again! It started raining a bit ago and I know K is swamped with taxes now. I just sent him a text that it was raining and made me think of him.
Hopeless I know.
kat
Yep. Totally hopeless.
LOL
Silly girls.
Ok just listened to another Keith Urban song and that IS country. Not too sure about that one. I will check out some of the other ones, I promise.
kat
He (keith urban) is quite possibly the best country guitarist out there right now. Brad Paisley is pretty good too, but Keith is better! Try his song "Making Memories of Us". I just love the words, I want a guy to be that way for me! Sigh...
So did he acknowlege the text??
I got my H a shirt that says... "My wife thinks I look like Keith Urban..." WISH!
No he hasn't. I know how swamped he is so I am not sweating it. We have so many clients at work just now doing their taxes, so I know he is getting that sort of stuff too.
Just got back from eating with J. He was really happy that i have gotten this far. Last June he had asked me if I was happy and without a lot of thought I said no. Now, I am. Not because of K but because I have come out of the pit and can see the world before me again!!
K is just an added bonus.
Life is pretty darn good.
kat
I like Keith and I like Brad. I think they're both exceptional musicians who take their craft seriously. I like their music and they each seem like swell guys. But I have to say it: IMHO, the best thing about either of them are their wives.
...and the truth is that I doubt either of them would argue with that.
Thanks to Bill and Bobbi Jo, I now have Keith Urban singing in my head!! Nice little private concert of one song over and over. LOL
I will check of the other stuff you guys mentioned later. J gave me a CD he had burned now that was country that I do NOT like. Twangy and all, blech. But I listened to the words and they made sense and that is what he wanted me to do.
I suppose we never really stopped being friends but I am so glad that we are doing stuff together again. Missed him. Only bad thing is that he does tend to put himself down. Need to get him pumped back up!
Now back to work.
kat
Which song kat? Kiss a Girl or one of his dozens of other #1 hits? There is a beautiful slow sultry song on his last CD called "Till Summer Comes Around". So sexy, slow and HOT HOT HOT! Watching him perform it made me cry.
Till Summer Comes Around
Yes, Kiss a Girl. I was dancing around the house listening to it. The girls looked at me as if I had lost my mind. I never said I was a good dancer, but I can sing.
kat
The girls were probably wondering why you wanted to kiss a girl....
yeah, I thought that too.
FYI, I do not want to kiss a girl. LOL
I told J that I might actually be without any kids for maybe the third time in three years this Saturday. Ex has the girls and my parents want the boys one last time before they go to Italy next month. (In case they get sick, they want time to get over it).
So J is asking me what I am waiting for, let K know. I told him that I am meeting my DB friend Yenko for a bit. He said you can still meet him but be with K. Text him, give him time to see if he can work it out again. So I did. I didn't ask him to come but just told him that I might actually be kidless one night.
Not going to hold my breath. He worked until nearly midnight last Saturday and this is the last one before the 15th. I guess you don't know if you don't ask or put it out there or whatever one needs to do.
kat
The worst he can say is nope, too busy.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that jazz.
What Michelle said, but picture me working Jazz Hands....
You guys are too much but that is why I love you! Yep, no reason to worry over it one way or another. He will or he won't. Naturally, I am hoping that he will.
I get to help s17 make a cake tonight for his German class and then tomorrow something for his French class. Could be interesting.
kat
I get to help s17 make a cake tonight for his German class and then tomorrow something for his French class. Could be interesting.
kat
So, is it a
German Chocolate Cake???
And are you making escargot cake for tomorrow?
You should do garlic baguette. Or French onion soup!
I think we are making Black Forest cake for the German class and who knows what for French class. Two years ago we(meaning me) made chocolate mousse from scratch...pure heaven. I think we have to do something different now. Last year it was something with apples that wasn't at all fun to make. I would do creme puffs since I make them a couple of times a year anyway but someone else always picks those. Darn!
Maybe I will just pass the spoon on to him but then he would be out asking me something every 2 seconds!! LOL (but oh sooo true!)
Michelle: escargot cake...for REAL??? LOL
kat
He has 2 foreign languages????? OMG! Overachiever!
Any French pastry will do, they're all good. Or.....here's a wild idea.....Quiche Lorraine? Easy and transports well.
He has 2 foreign languages????? OMG! Overachiever!
And this comes as a surprise why?? Just look at who his Mom is. lol He didn't fall from the tree. I am always surprised that he picks a pretty hard schedule, but he has had all A's this year. Momma bear is proud.
kat
Ok Kat, dont let me read the whole thread, did YOU have sex as well recently?
Just checking in, making sure everyone is Ok...
K
No, but I certainly had several chances when I met up with K last Friday. Both decided that we didn't want our first time to be rushed. So perhaps very soon.
Everything else is great.
kat
Woop woop
I have such a big smile on my face for you!
Thanks Julia!
S17 and I ended up making a cinnamon cake for German class. Pretty easy. He was moving soooo slow because he wanted to be precise and I just kept pushing him along. Whenever I stepped out of the kitchen, it was 100 questions time.
Tonight I am going to step way back even if it takes him 2 hours!! LOL
kat
So what did you decide to make for French class?
I don't know if he knows yet. He is the "Mystery gourmet"!! LOL
All of this talk about FWB...I thought about it. I really did and I just don't think that is me. I mean even when I did "it" for the first time, J and I had dated for almost 2 years. We were broken up but he was still my friend and I knew he wouldn't hurt me(emotionally).
Of course with it now well past two years, I know I want to but gee if I still don't want it to mean something. I am not saying there is anything wrong with FWB, I just know myself well enough that I would want more there. I am a hopeful romantic.
kat
S17 still doesn't know what he is making! Uuuggghhh. I am not going into the kitchen. I am not going into the kitchen. (Repeat 10 more times.
I think I am ordering pizza.
LOL! And he has to have this made when?
FWB isn't anything I would have ever done. I can guarantee that I would never be this way with anyone else. There is a comfort level that I wouldn't have with any other man.
I'm a hopeless romantic too and I really need to have those loving, romantic feelings. But.......there is something to be said for 'gettin' your freak on!'
LOL
Oh hon, I was just thinking out loud since it has come up on a couple of threads.
I want to have fun but I also want to be with just one person and know that they are with you and not out playing the field. I may be making this too hard on myself!!
I have convinced S17 to make creme puffs anyhow. So HE is.
kat
S17 survived but he was asking me a question probably every two minutes. It made me want to change my name!
I took him up earlier to where he will be taking the ACT tomorrow bright and early so he knows where to go. Then off to the store. When we get back he shows me this note that the water dept. has left saying I have used massive amounts of water in the past 10 days. Maybe I need to check for a leak.
I can't find anything in the house so far. My heart is sinking. Can't imagine what it is going to cost me if they have to dig up my yard to fix it. This morning I noticed they were doing just that a couple houses down from mine on the other side of the street.
So this is how I know I am alive...one thing after another.
kat
Just talked to the city. My current bill is about $230!!! YIKES! they are going to try and get me more info. Have a call into the plumber also so they can figure out where the leak is. So much for refunds...easy come, easy go.
kat
Hope you get the water thing resolved!!!
I was telling Jeff last night, re fwb, that if you are a friend I would want to sleep with, I doubt I could leave it at just benefits, bc obv I am already 'into' you on other levels!
However, if one of the dudes from that TV series Spartacus showed up at the door? Game on....
(For the record Jeff did not agree with that last part...)
Oh I think I am getting it all figured out. the plumber is going to charge a LOT of money. My parents stopped by just as I got done talking to them so I filled them in. They said if I don't get approved for the financing then they would finance me for zero interest. They love me. They just have so much on their plate that I just don't like to go there.
I could see the Spartucus thing happening! Yep I see that I am already into K, as if you guys didn't know that already. I just couldn't be just that with him. It already drives me crazy when I don't get a text, I am a flirtation widow during the last two weeks of taxes!
kat
oh Kat.....LOL girl we live to close, we really need a get together time to talk......seems we think alot alike......not going into that yet......
I am getting to see Yenko on Saturday. Last time I saw him was late summer. It will be nice to catch up. I have made myself be pretty social this week. Monday: How to Train your Dragon with the kids, Tuesday: met J, Saturday: meeting Yenko and Sunday: book club. Got absolutely nothing incredible done at the house. I have a lot of work to do.
Are you ever up here? I haven't really been anywhere near Wichita in over 3 years but that doesn't mean I can't go find you. lol
kat
lol we should meet in the middle. I hope to meet yenko some time, he does get out my way occasionally. oh girl i am working on the social thing too.....I even got a CELL phone lol. my kids are jealous cause mine has unlimited everything, including internet and theirs dont.....oh to bad lol!!
Never should your kids have fancier stuff than you,their parent!!
Yes making myself get back out there. I know the kids won't get into too much trouble if I am gone just a couple of hours. I just wish K was on my list for this week.
kat
oh i wanna get caught up on all that!!! I love having a cell phone, it sure makes some things interesting lol!!! I made a bet this football season, and they really upped the anti on me...I decided to be off the wall, and do the bet when i lost....talk about a huge change for me hehehe.
To see the progress of that situation you would need to go back to my previous thread, right around Valentine's day. Real quick, he was my boyfriend in high school. Broke up with me right before I went away for a year. Looking back, who could blame him. But at the time I was really hurt.
Anyway he has done quite a bit to make amends or at least to get him back into my life again. He came and saw me in Branson while I was with the kids and took us all out. Met up for lunch last week that lasted 6 hours. Just to add to that we met about half way so we each had about a 2 hour drive each way. There, that is the short version of major occurrences.
kat
LOL well thats good!! you seem excited about it. and well we deserve some happiness. I have no idea what the hell i am doing. I dont kno if i am as fair as you yet.....the whole fwb thing is kinda scary......
To see the progress of that situation you would need to go back to my previous thread, right around Valentine's day. Real quick, he was my boyfriend in high school. Broke up with me right before I went away for a year. Looking back, who could blame him. But at the time I was really hurt.
Anyway he has done quite a bit to make amends or at least to get him back into my life again. He came and saw me in Branson while I was with the kids and took us all out. Met up for lunch last week that lasted 6 hours. Just to add to that we met about half way so we each had about a 2 hour drive each way. There, that is the short version of major occurrences.
kat
Um, yeah.....except you left out the part about
MAKING OUT IN THE RAIN!!!Ok maybe I am still a little jealous of that one...
I have no plans of this situation turning into that. I guess though you never say never.
I am smitten not sure you can turn that into FWB, but maybe into Boyfriend With Benefits.
kat
I have no plans of this situation turning into that. I guess though you never say never.
I am smitten not sure you can turn that into FWB, but maybe into Boyfriend With Benefits.
kat
That's what I want too!! Romantic/fun good guy, but with REALLY good benefits....
(See this is where I need that evil grin emoticon!!)
To see the progress of that situation you would need to go back to my previous thread, right around Valentine's day. Real quick, he was my boyfriend in high school. Broke up with me right before I went away for a year. Looking back, who could blame him. But at the time I was really hurt.
Anyway he has done quite a bit to make amends or at least to get him back into my life again. He came and saw me in Branson while I was with the kids and took us all out. Met up for lunch last week that lasted 6 hours. Just to add to that we met about half way so we each had about a 2 hour drive each way. There, that is the short version of major occurrences.
kat
Um, yeah.....except you left out the part about
MAKING OUT IN THE RAIN!!!Ok maybe I am still a little jealous of that one...
Did I forget to mention that I wasn't going to kiss and tell? But that was the coolest part!!!
kat
LOL Bobbijo or the one with the devil horns and the halo lol!!!
OMG KISSING IN THE RAIN?????
To see the progress of that situation you would need to go back to my previous thread, right around Valentine's day. Real quick, he was my boyfriend in high school. Broke up with me right before I went away for a year. Looking back, who could blame him. But at the time I was really hurt.
Anyway he has done quite a bit to make amends or at least to get him back into my life again. He came and saw me in Branson while I was with the kids and took us all out. Met up for lunch last week that lasted 6 hours. Just to add to that we met about half way so we each had about a 2 hour drive each way. There, that is the short version of major occurrences.
kat
Um, yeah.....except you left out the part about
MAKING OUT IN THE RAIN!!!Ok maybe I am still a little jealous of that one...
Did I forget to mention that I wasn't going to kiss and tell? But that was the coolest part!!!
kat
Sorry, thought you had shared that with the class....I will shut up now....
I will say that they are calling for rain and storms here Wednesday....yippee!
Oh I did share. I am guilty teach! I just don't usually and he even asked me if I was going too.!! (busted)
I hope the rain is gentle and romantic so you can go make out and get a bit soaked too!
kat
Well Kat.....you do get alot more rain than i do here in my part of the state.....and uh where the hay were you that it was WARM enough to kiss in the rain lol?????
We were in Clinton, MO right after those terrible storms last Friday. I made sure my Good Friday was!! LOL
kat
lol that would make a good friday for sure!!! I am jealous!!!
Hey, don't be jealous. Put it on your list of fun things to do!! It is romantic and I am so glad that he was good with it. We both thought it was pretty cool. Guys can surprise you!
kat
I am a bit of an idiot but also feel empowered too. My Dad called and asked if I checked the basement bathroom for leaks. I said I had gone down and checked but didn't hear anything or see dripping water but that I would double check the toilet.
Seems the float had broken off and so the water was continually filling and overflowing. I replaced the flap just to be safe. We don't use this bathroom because the whole basement is just spooky! Anyway I kept messing with the water shut off, it had already been turned tight but not tight enough because the tank was still able to fill. Broke out the pliers and got it turned off completely. So with the flap and it being shut off, I should be good for now. Eventually I will work on that bathroom but not now.
So I am glad, even though I still feel like an idiot.
kat
So... WET kisses Ms Kat, huh? Nice!!!
K
So glad you got that figured out!!!!!!!!! Much cheaper than a plumber and an accomplishment for sure!
So... WET kisses Ms Kat, huh? Nice!!!
K
Hopefully you are talking about the ones in the rain last week!! Yes, that has to go into my all time favorite list of favorite kisses. Hard to not think about them!
Also feel good about the plumbing. Small victory for this girl that doesn't have much upper body strength!
kat
Hi Kat
You should feel good about the plumbing.. being able to 'deal with' things like that around the house are empowering!
Kisses in the rain, huh? One more thing on my 'to-do' list.
Peace
Bridge
We are back to texting but he is still doing taxes. April th can't come fast enough for me!!
kat
I am glad u fixed it, wanna come help me with one in my other bathroom lol????? I could call B and have him do it but i would rather flood first lol. i hope tax season ends fast for u!
Ex never fixed any of this stuff anyhow. It was either I tried or hired someone. He would come help if I needed him to, when my arms weren't strong enough type of thing. So I suppose it is really more of the same.
Nothing to miss because I didn't have it to begin with.
4 more days, but who is counting.
kat
Good for you on fixing the leak! That's awesome that the water company called you to tell you!
Yea it is but why didn't they notify me last month when they first noticed it being so out of the norm? Thank goodness I have continued to save so I can pay that big bill.
Just glad my Dad asked me to double check it! Amazing what one toilet can do!!
kat
Do you only get billed bimonthly or something?
I get billed once a month. They just said on their notice that I had used 11000 gallons of water since 3/29! They say the average household uses 100 gallons per person per day. So with 5 of us that is a bit more than twice the normal usage per day. The bill is not quite 3 times what it is monthly. Yikes!!
kat
lol only 4 more days but whos counting that is funny. no not you thats for sure lol!!!!
Yikes. Good thing you had your rainy day fund. No pun intended lol.
Your water is cheap! I pay about $50 a month just for me!
We do seem to get more rain than you guys and I am sure all that snow helped too! Thank goodness our water isn't super expensive but it is enough.
All I know this week is due to be a good one.
kat
OK, I am watching the calendar with baited breath.
I am pretty lucky in the water dept, I am on well water, and actually i have amazing well water. that saves me a bit of money for sure.
LOL so i wonder if i will be able to hear you scream yippee when it is finally that day lol
Went back and reread e-mail conversations with flirt guy and then reread messages between K and I prior to our meeting again in March. Everything with flirt guy was quick and flirty and passionate even. With K it was reconnecting as friends and building.
I have a gift card from Victoria's Secret that I have to use before the end of the month. choices!! Too bad my body doesn't look like that anymore. 4 kids and running around in a near constant state of exhaustion have taken their toll. I have started walking and am hoping to gradually add on some more exercise to that.
kat
wow, I sure missed alot. I still have a gift card to use there too. had it for quite a while.....I should at least go get a new bra with it huh?? I have been working on getting in shape too, I will be spending quite a bit of time at the lake this summer, so I need to be able to be seen in a bathing suit lol!!
I think it is sad, when I used to look like that, I didn't have to work at it. I was always doing something. Now with the kids I am always doing something too but it is more the mental variety of exhaustion. That and the being resposible housework type stuff.
Maybe I need to post a picture of the body I want up where I can see it all the time.
kat
I started walking and exercising....and it has actually given me energy!!!!
I know. It is sometimes hard to make the time as I always seem to have a full plate. I am breaking things down though and making some time.
Coming out of the tunnel...a lot more things seem possible.
kat
I made myself since its nice, start walking on my lunch....I probably could get up earlier in the morning and do something, but I dont see that happening lol!
I still ahve to get everyone up and push them to get going so I don't see that happening then either! I only have a 30 minute lunch so I have the bad habit of doing errands then and grabbing something if I didn't feel like making my lunch that day.
I absolutely hate going to the grocery store but if I have it the kids just tend to get into and blow all of my planning off. I have tried the consequesnces of not having what you want for lunches and stuff and that just becomes a big mess all around.
kat
ahhhh I hate the store too. we have been way to bad about eating out lately. but by the time I get off work, and get home, its so late if I have to cook. I need to quit that. BAD habit I used to hate....of course thats when I was a sahm. now that I am here 10 1/2 hours a day....I hate cooking lol.
I had issues with that when I first went back to work, them interupting my meal planning...I went to making things they didnt like hehehe, that taught them.
Nice to see that progression with K.
I love my house because I am less than 1/2 mile from Trader Joe's!!!! It makes going to the store a little easier. I swung by on the way home from the train park & ride yesterday. Always busy that time of day, but I was able to grab some veggies and salad stuff to go with the steaks I had defrosted for dinner.
I am doing a lot of my dry goods, misc. stuff via the internet but I still have to shop for everyday things.
With flirt guy it was that chemistry thing going on, there was heat. With K there is, like I said, the rebuilding. The texts are flirty and fun and we seem to use that mode of communication more now then messages on FB.
I suppose my thoughts are what if he doesn't want to keep seeing me or texting. This comes up because he has been swamped with taxes and we have not texted or talked much since Good Friday. You all know how patient I am (not) and am trying to see if things pick up again after the 15th. He has a conference this weekend too so of course that will take his time. Oh I never would have made a good jedi!
kat
HAHAHAHA
Patience young padawan!
I suck at it too, my patience supply done ran out!!!
I saw a preview for the new Karate Kid movie....Jackie Chan as Miyagi....he is tracking a fly with his eyes, holding chopsticks...then suddenly the other hand comes up with a fly swatter and smashes the sucker! Guess I am more swatter than chopsticks myself!
Thanks for the laugh! So you think I should just knock him out and drag him home? lol
kat
Thanks for the laugh! So you think I should just knock him out and drag him home? lol
kat
Whatever works chica....
Absolutely!!! Not with a flyswatter though. I'm thinking this might be more appropriate!
Cavewoman!
I can't see the pic at work, but am guessing by the name what the picture may look like. Maybe it is time to revert back to the good old ways.
kat
Well did you look at the pic last nite??? LOL!!
Yep! It was pretty much what I thought it would be. lol
Met my best girlfriend last night for dinner. Got her all caught up on the past couple of weeks. She knew bits and pieces because we can't manage to get together with our schedules. She thinks it all sounds good, says I deserve it but just doesn't want me to get hurt. Well, I don't either!
Wish they may some sort of insurance against that stuff. lol
kat
I am glad you had a good evening!! Maybe Kat we could invent that inurance and be rich lol!!!! None of us want to be hurt anymore......I think sometimes its the fear of that, that actually makes me introverted instead of my outgoing self!
Getting out of your comfort zone is difficult. I won't deny that. However,I have been trying. Going to movies alone still gets to me sometimes but I know I can do it.
A day and a half...
kat
LOL I was gonna see if you would count today......my biggest comfort zone issue is my body........bein so sick for so long, all B's hateful comments,,,,I am beyond insecure.....ok day and a half......send me some rain.....
I will get to working on that rain dance!!
kat
LOL ok make it perfect!!! oh wait not ready for a flood!!!!!! lol!! just a nice rain...
I will try and make it only be gentle...no promises though. sometiems the rain has a mind of its own.
kat
lol well i didnt handle kissing good well it was good when i told ya about it, then my brain decided it wanted to think dang thing.....so yes gentle rain lmao!!!!
My fingers are becoming dyslexic!! I keep switching two letters around. My brain is faster than my fingers. Who would have thought!
So this kiss was with someone you are friends with? have been attracted too? what?
Just today...
Yay!!! Happy Tax Day!
Btw it is POURING here right now...
Not a good rain for making out in! I am really sorry about last night. Has he said anything?
Who would have ever thought I would be so happy that tax day is here??
kat
Not a word but then he never contacts me during school hours...usually not until at least 6 p.m....
Firmed up your weekend yet?
I haven't. I am really hoping to hear something tomorrow. If I don't make it up North this weekend then I am looking 2 weekends out. I will let you know. I think AAA showed it as 3 hours.
My parents were also going to try to take the boys so I have to see how that goes too. Funny K said that when you are a kid you are trying to find a place away from your parents and when you are an adult you are trying to find a place away from your kids!
I am also really glad tomorrow is Friday!
kat
Me too...!! And as much as I love my kids, I miss the weekends I had on my own... (I know, bad mom)
K
No not a bad Mom, just overwhelmed by doing so much on your own. We all need a break. I have only had all the kids gone for a total of two nights in 3 years!! I need my own break soon.
kat
Happy tax day Kat!!! LOL been hearing on the radio nothing but beeotching about today, every time I hear it, I think of you hehehe! I hope it works out this weekend for you!!
Ok now I feel guilty....the first four years of Nathan's life I never had a babysitter and we lived in different states so I had no family to step in...part of how/why Dan and I drifted apart, no 'us' time...
But now between my parents, his parents, and joint custody, I have loads of free evenings...that is something that would be tough to give up in order to reconcile...that and closet space!
HAHA. You and Kalni both!
He still struggles to find clothes that arent wrinkled... I just watch him and enjoy it. I mean, ok, the rest he may have gotten, but closet space? Not yet Mister, closet space is sacred in this house and you must earn it!!
K
Maybe another reason why ex left...lack of closet space!! Actually since my room is a converted attic the doors tend to stick on the closets. Very little space for summer things anyhow!
the kids used to spend the night with his parents once and a while. For about a year our parents would coordinate who got which set and then they would spend the night to give me one free evening. Problem was ex was always working, but at least it was time to myself. Now my in-laws haven't had them spend the night once since the falling out over the D.
kat
Yeah, it is the 16th!! I guess the conference is next week, not this week. He had the dates wrong last month. But at least we are back to texting and flirting.
kat
any ideas what you are going to be doing this weekend yet???
We just had a couple of quick e-mails last night so haven't brought that up yet. He is so glad to be done. I might suggest something and if he can't or I become a big chicken and don't say anything, I am going to Iowa. I will have to check the weather for that though too. If not this weekend then in two weeks, I /we will do the Iowa trip.
kat
I know this makes me look bad but it is so cute. I was out walking with my 3 youngest the other night. D9 was trying to understand the difference between a promise and a goal. I started to say that I could set as a goal for myself not to cuss during basketball games. She says, "But Mommy you do. Whenever the other team scores you usually shout out $%#^&. (okay this is an exaggeration but that is besides the point). I said well ok but I am going to try not to. You don't need to tell everyone. She comes back with,"We already all know you do, because we sometimes watch the game with you." I just told her that we don't need to tell Grandma and Grandpa and people outside the family. I will keep working on it. She said okay and the conversation moved on to something else.
Reminder to self not to bring up basketball around my kids and in front of my parents when they are with us!!
kat
(((((kat)))))
That is funny!
that is cute, sounds like how I watch football lol
Your story reminds me of when my oldest was about two years old. She was being looked after during the day by an older lady and her husband. At lunch one day the husband spilled some soup and my daughter says "Uncle, you're making a bloody mess". Now, the day care lady brought this to my attention when I picked my daughter up, and for the life of me, I couldn't figure out where my daughter had picked that up, could it be my Dad?. I said "Hm, I never say that but I'll discuss it with my wife". Well, my wife informed me that "bloody" was a favourite word of mine and I apparently didn't even know it! Oops.
LOL! Love it!
My son decided to tell his preschool teacher that she was 'full of sh!t' one day when he didn't like what she was telling him. That was my bad!!!!
I tend to get a bit potty mouthed watching football so I am right there with you kat.
Hey, Kat it's me. D came through. I'm fine though. Not as bad as I thought it would be except for the kids (X is getting the 50% parenting time he requested).
Ok so I was really confused over this weekend. He has a conference this week, yes in KC and then has another something or other this next weekend. I think that is going to be in KC too.
So I got through the end of tax season but now he has to take care of his other business. When I was talking to Karen, she had a good point. This will help me slow down, even though I want to go fast!! LOL
He hasn't done anything or said anything that leads me to think that he isn't thinking of me in the same way. I just jump ahead in my thoughts and get myself in trouble. Just keep reminding myself that slow and steady wins the race.
kat
I wondered all weekend how your weekend was. So ya think you might be able to get over to KC?? Slow and steady huh???? hehe
You are so bad!! I texted with him and they have a pretty packed schedule. I will keep my fingers crossed that he gets a bit of a break.
kat
I will cross mine for you too!
Thanks! I did take the kids to Legends and we ate out at the T-Rex cafe. They always like it there, though S14 is getting a bit old for it. S17 was working so he didn't get to go. We still had fun though.
Have to keep GALing. It is funny how I feel I am back to where I was before I got married...lots of choices and opportunities out there.
kat
I LOVE the Legends!! My son's fave is the TRex. We went there for two of his birthdays, plus once after he got his ear tubes in. All together though we prob ate their 8-10 times in the 3 years we lived in the area. I loved going to Cold Stone and then sitting by the fountain...
The girls wanted to go there right after we ate but we already had ice cream at the cafe! We window shopped a bit and then sat by the fountain where S14 procedded to splash me!
D9 is a bit tenative about going to that house I want to see in Iowa, so worse case scenario it will be me and D11. I will let you know and maybe we can meet up before or after depending on your schedule.
kat
It is funny. The kids are really big on K, they even have nicknames for him. I have told them that neither of us is looking to get married any time soon but they still ask what about K even if I mention meeting a friend that is a guy.
I don't think that it is bad that they met him but just goes to show that it is better to wait until something more solid is happening.
kat
Not necessarily. It's a learning experience for them too. They need to see what life is really like. So, maybe not a bad thing.
Glad you are having fun and have options
Oh you have to love the optimism of kids today. My son was asked to the prom via text at 8pm last night and it is Saturday! Have to see if he can get off work if he works the night shift, see if he can get a tux, money pulled together, tickets...can I stop pulling my hair out yet??? lol
They don't have a clue. Maybe that is why they have more fun...
kat
WOW!!! where is he gonna get a tux last minute?? least hes a boy, I cant imagine dealing teenage girl with that short of notice......is he excited?
I think he is in shock. He wasn't planning on going. The girl that asked him is the one he really liked last year but she was dating someone. He doesn't have any idea how much he has to do in such a small amount of time. lol
Ex just called and acted as if he had put in tons of time already trying to figure this out. Whatever. He is willing to help money wise which is great considering he hasn't paid me alimony this week(said with sarcasm).
kat
well thats cool that its a girl he liked before!! Ya didnt get any help on D17's prom stuff either. arent the x's just lovely
Well, let's hope xh comes through financially since he doesn't seem to come through in any other way!
Is your son excited that this girl asked him or is he downplaying it?
He keeps saying they are just friends. she isn't with the guy she used to date anymore so he could just be playing this off like no big deal. Meanwhile Mom's gray hair is popping out all over!! LOL
kat
LOL!!!! yeah guys like to play it cool with mom....bet he's like DUDE GUESS WHAT with his buddies....
Yes, especially since she asked him!
kat
Most of the tuxes in town are rented. Ex found one place and directed S17 there. Should know soon if that is going to work or not. fingers crossed!
kat
Ok so he was able to get one but costs a small fortune. He just told me if he knew it was going to be this much trouble he wouldn't have done it. I said usually you plan a couple months out, not a couple of days! lol
He was supposed to work on Saturday but traded it. Now it looks like he just has to buy tickets, get the corsage ordered and figure out dinner. My hair is turning brown again.
kat
Wow! Sweet!
With my baby brother my mom actually bought him one. It was like $10 difference from renting and that way he wore it more than once LOL.
Glad things seem to be coming together!
It sounds like he's getting it all together. What ideas does he have for dinner? Are they going in a big group?
They haven't talked about going with anyone else but of course we have been running around like crazy to get this done! He has to get tickets and figure out dinner tonight so we can see if they take reservations. Almost done! whew!!
Talking more with K again now that the conference is done. He is meeting up with old college friends over the weekend in KC so probably not going to see him then either.
kat
I found out that they are going with a couple of other friends. For some reason, she wants to go to IHOP for dinner!! WTH?? Oh well, it isn't me so why should I gripe?
He feels terrible that he has spent a small fortune and gave up his work shift. I told him that you only get to do this twice maybe so enjoy it! Have fun. He is such a "the glass is half empty" sort of kid.
kat
Hopefully he gets over it!!! You know, the kids here go to IHOP, Chili's, even Waffle House! They crack me up!
IHop? Wow that is not going to be very expensive at least! Although I wouldn't want to risk getting syrup on my formal...
You guys getting the storms today too??
Dinner will be the cheapest thing! Tux:150, corsage,14, prom tickets:60 , Having fun with your friends until 4 am: Priceless!
Yep, stormed last night and this morning. It is supposed to rain tomorrow too. I just hope it is done before they go.
kat
For anyone interested: "It's Complicated" comes out on Tuesday!! Got to have it. It is the Meryl Streep movie that came out around Christmas. Loved it!
kat
I am glad he got it together!!! Well, when we stopped to eat before going last sat to take pics of D at prom, we saw couples at Taco Bell.....so IHOP is a step above that lol! We had storms yesterday, rain this morning, and now its sunny and windy...gotta love kansas eh?
I saw a table full of prommmers at Fridays Saturday night. Not quite IHOP!
They always say if you don't like the weather, stick around. It is always bound to change!!
Ex wants to make a big deal of having him bring his date to my house. I don't care either way since S17 hates having a fuss made over him. I could take pics of him and be happy. We can always pay for him to have pics taken at prom!
Oh Whatever!!
kat
Just survived S17 heading off to prom. I am sure I embarrassed him a tad but not on purpose. I even endured ex though he hung out in the boy's room most of the time.
Gee, my eyes even welled up a bit as he drove off. He isn't a baby anymore huh?
kat
Nope, not a baby anymore.
That's so hard.
I just posted a few pics on the alt if you want to see.
I'll try to check them out today or tomorrow. They grow up SO fast!!! I've been lurking this past week when I can, and will try to post some the next couple days...Things still going well?
He didn't get home until 5:30 am. I stayed up most of the time but went to bed right before he got home. He had a great time at prom and after prom. I am really happy for him but am exhausted!
kat
That is wonderful kat! We always went out all night too and everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) met up at a local restaurant at 6AM for breakfast. It was always fun to see the bleary eyes along with the happy, giddy smiles.
I am just so glad that it was a positive experience for him(and a first date too)!
Mine wasn't all that great but I think it was really important to have that experience.
I am still trying to recover from the lack of sleep on my part.
kat
Big milestone, Kat. Congrats to "surviving" it. (I can't say what I'm going to do when my time comes.)
I was trying to plan a weekend next month to see K. I realized I needed to check his schedule. The time I was looking at isn't going to happen because he will be in Florida. In fact he will be out of town alot in May.
Looking on the bright side, it gives me more time to work out and get my house in order!
I can see this is going to take more patience on my part(YIKES)!!
kat
You will be fine! I just keep thinking I have 3 more kids to go through this first prom/first date thing with. It makes my head swim. lol
Kind of strange going through the dating thing at the same time as your kids.
kat
Kind of strange going through the dating thing at the same time as your kids.
Now THAT is something I never dreamed I would possibly be faced with when my own kids were born!
Just found out a bit ago that an old childhood friend lost his daughter Saturday. I think she was in first grade. I don't know the details. I feel so awful for him, he lost his wife suddenly a couple of years ago.
So hug your little ones tight and let them know you love them.
kat
I found out what happened. She was only 4. she had flu like symptoms and on Saturday she had a hard time breathing. Her Dad called EMS but they couldn't revive her. Oh my, my heart is aching.
That is so horribly sad kat. I'll keep him in my prayers. Does he have a large family supporting him?
He has two brothers and he also has three sons. The oldest is 16. It is heartbreaking. I know he lost his Mom not long after High School. His wife had cancer and died a few days after they found out. They had just adopted this little girl from China about 5 months earlier. Now this. He is a really great guy and I can't imagine the pain he has had to go through.
So many class mates posted on his site on the alt last night. We are just all over the place. I think there are quite a few of us in the KC area.
Thanks for your thoughts. Sorry to be so down about this.
kat
It is perfectly normal to be down about the death of a child. It's such a tragedy. Death in the elderly is upsetting but that is the normal progression of life. Death in the young just seems so against the universe.
Thanks Mish. I really do think it is because it is a child. There are just some paths in our lives that seem so similiar and I wish he had been given the easier road in all of this.
Ok I need to cheer up. Send some sunshine my way!
kat
No parent wants to "go" after their children do -- that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Thoughts and prayers are with the family.
Ummmmmmmmmm this is the ONE place you should never feel sorry for voicing your feelings, duh!
It is ok. I have been quite down for other reasons but something like this puts it into perspective...
Thanks guys. I just had a client that got me talking and oh did I let a lot out. Good thing my boss was at lunch. Just the whole thing ex, kids, where I am now. Just a really sweet lady that let me talk and she talked some stuff out too.
I wasn't really venting just talking. I really must have needed to. Maybe an affirmation that I needed from someone on the outside. I got that. She said I was a strong, beautiful person and that my kids were going to be using that strength in their own lives one day.
Angels that pass before you even in day to day life.
kat
(((Kat)))
And she was right!
Thanks and you are an angel too! (But of course you already knew that).
kat
So I feel as if I strayed a bit with the last week or so. Nothing major, just not focusing on where I want to go but can't really blame prom!
I miss the daily attention that I was getting from K. Life is hectic all around. Don't know if we have stalled for the moment or if we are just in a holding pattern until the weather clears! Either way, I decided there is no point sitting around waiting when I have work to do on the house and on me. Just need a little push to get started. lol
kat
Push!!!!
I know the feeling, I was off my path but I am getting back on...as they say take care of you and the rest will fall into place.
Not sure what I am up to the 15th weekend yet but it is supposed to be Dan's weekend with the kids...
Nudge nudge...wink wink.....does that help?
Well if scary houses don't work, I could always meet you to window shop!
I have no clue when it comes to my house. So I need to be looking for ideas.
I might still cave and take D11 this weekend, just depends on what the weather is doing. No point going if it is going to be a soggy mess. But she has been wanting to go since October!
kat
The nudging yes. The winking...just gets me thinking. lol Not always a good thing.
kat
Went to D9's string concert tonight. They were all really good. Ex was there. The kids kept talking about it before hand so I wasn't surprised. Since it was just us we sat together and even when I took the girls to Dairy Queen, I invited him along. He accepted and we had a good time. How strange after 4 kids, 19 years of marriage and almost 2 years of being divorced, we could get along.
Oh well less stress is always good. So it is what it is. Civility.
kat
Even though I hate that term, it is what it is, I do like the rest of your post!
It is going to be good for your kids if you can do things together and get along...
As long as his girlfriend isn't there, I think I am good. I don't know that I can say the same when we throw my parents in the mix! They haven't seen him since he filed and I don't think that will be a pretty picture. Best to keep them apart especially since we have two graduations this month!
Sometimes it is hard to come up with a better description of the situation. Dan must have used that phrase a lot with you. sorry.
Storms here, I think all day but hopefully no tornadoes.
kat
That was great for the kids that you two were able to sit together and go to DQ together afterward. Civility is imperative!
No storms here today, thank goodness. Just lots of sunshine and 81 degrees. Supposed to storm on Monday....right in the middle of the funeral. ICK!
Glad that you were able to do this with you ex. It is very healthy for everyone when two people can set their differences aside and act civil to one another. So far (thankfully) this is what I have experienced with my own STBXW and based on some of the horror stories I have read on this board about batch*tt crazy ex'es, I feel very fortunate for me and my two girls.
I can't promise that this will always be the case. The kids are the greatest thing we have done. No reason for them to feel bad when we are together.
I almost grabbed his hand last night like I used to but stopped myself and grabed D11's. Good thing I made her come along.
kat
Yeah, that can be the danger. Old habits and all. But you made it and good for the girls. We are celebrating Sydney's birthday with lunch and cake on Sunday, just the 4 of us. I want them to see that we still love them no matter what. As the book I am reading says, "It is important for the kids that you love them more than you despise your spouse"
Not that you despise him, per se, but you get the idea. I am sure they enjoyed the experience.
Weekend plan?
I think I am either going a couple hours North or a couple of hours South. How is that for a plan? LOL
kat
Lol. It's a spontaneous one!
Sounds like the concert was fun! Glad you guys can both be mature enough to have fun with the kids and be there for them. That's definitely something worth striving for.
Oh no, does that make me a grown-up??! Yikes!!
I went South. Sorry it was kind of a last minute decision BobbiJo, but I also knew it was Sydney's birthday so I didn't want to bother you. Ok, well I also got a speeding ticket. My first in about 12 years and I deserved it. I am not all that upset because I know I do speed most of the time. I was a very good girl on the way home.
Took D11 to the haunted house in Iowa. There was a murder there back in 1912. A couple things happened but I don't think I captured any ghosts on the camera. Wish I had a tape recorder...maybe next time. Anyway a nice day even though I drove 6 hours of it!
kat
Glad you guys had a good time! No worries, there will be another time!
I wouldn't go to that place, anyway, I don't like haunted/paranormal stuff. Creeps me out way too much. But glad you liked it!
I meant I went North!! I know there was a point I thought about going the other way but didn't. Silly me.
A couple of things happened but nothing earth shattering. When we first got there everything was fine. When we moved into the living room, I got a really heavy feeling in my chest, like a pressure. Later, I asked for the "ghost" to move something in the room other than the crystal we had been using. My camera definitely moved and it had been stationary!
Yes, fun but strange being there with strangers.
kat
I thought so!
What a difference a month makes! Nothing really going on right now. K's D18 had prom Friday night and her Mom was in town part of the week before that. Not much fun for him anyway. They took some great pictures of about 28 kids on his deck and the girls on the stairway of his house.
So I refuse to get into limbo and am trying to keep busy while he contends with his ex and all the turnoil that brings. I have had to remind myself all weekend...sometimes it isn't about me at all.
kat
Well as part of continuing to stay busy, I got together with J last night. Had a really good talk and he helped me figure out somethings I wasn't sure about. My problem of course is that I still think too much!
He said he thought that right now reality has crept back into K's life and he has things to do. I am right not to take it personally. I need to use this time to see what I want to do. I of course want to see what this is/could be. There is the distance thing that might cause the biggest issue but since I now have a reliable car, I can meet half way and go there too and not have him have to come to me all of the time.
It's a hectic month with graduations for both of us and then they are also going on vacation. I have a lot to keep me busy.
kat
Enjoy it all!
I am trying! I so want to just pick up the phone and call or text and say come meet me!! lol
Someone come take my phone...
kat
HAHAHA. Wish I could.
But virtually, I am smacking your hand away from it!
Would that necessarily be a bad thing? I know he has a lot going on but are there no free evenings and/or weekends this month?
No, it wouldn't be a bad thing. It has been hard for me to ask for what I want in the past. Difficult to just put it out there. Honestly, I would like for him to say it. So old fashioned of me I know.
I have learned though that if you don't say something, sometimes the chance just passes you by.
kat
Asking for what you want is seriously difficult. I'm with you there sister. Bite the bullet and DO IT!!!!! Tell him you would like to see him and give him a few dates that work for you. Make it happen!
Oh I just blurted it out in a text, "Come meet me!" No dates just the sentiment. I will have to wait and see if he answers as he is in St. Louis today.
kat
You needed to grab the phone! Still don't know anything but I really don't expect a reply when he is working.
Boy Missouri was quick cashing the check I sent for my ticket! I just thought it was best to get it over with. Ex naturally still hasn't sent alimony for this week. Just keeps reminding me that I can't count on him. Thank goodness I don't budget it in!
kat
Kat,
Sorry I don't get to post much, Thank you for the bday wishes!!
Looks like your doing great. I hope he texts you back!!
Btw, I love your quote about the eggshells, its so true, but boy do i do that!
Thanks Irish!
Lots of storms around last night and they were talking about tennis ball size hail. It thankfully missed us but we still got thunderstorms. I just hate them at night!
Just realized this morning that Sex and the City is coming out on my 2nd un-anniversary. I am going to have to get some people together and go.
No word from K yet but I am not going to sweat it.
kat
You sound kool as a Kat
Sorry to be cheesy, I couldn't help myself lol!
I can't wait for the Sex in the City movie.
LOL. That is fine Julia, we all could use a little more cheesy! I am thinking maybe going out to dinner after too. What a nice way to keep myself busy. I don't want to forget that I got married, I just don't want to wallow in remembering the hurt of the last few years.
kat
Happy Mother's Day to you Kat! Hope you had a good day & are still enjoying yourself! Love, Karen
Hope you had a great Mothers Day.
Thanks I did. Having the option of spending the whole day with my Mom or not made a huge difference!
The girls made me a card and bought me a daisy. The boys got me a card and roses. My parents uploaded photos of the kids to Kodak and had a book made! My Aunt gave me a lovely saying framed. I am a lucky Mom indeed.
J even sent me a text just in case the kids weren't spoiling me enough. I spoke with Karen and then called J to thank him. Only downside was my least favorite team of the remaining 3 on Amazing Race won.
Not a bad day.
kat
Awww...I liked the brothers but I REALLY wanted the cowboys to win.
They were always nice to have everyone. They didn't play dirty. The cowboys were brothers too!
I think I have only had the team I wanted to win do so twice. So I guess I should never bet on the winner! lol
kat
Ok, Maybe I am reading way too much into this but saw on FB that K's college friend will be going to Florida with the family too. Maybe I am too fragile to trust right now. Maybe I am jumping to conclusions,, I don't know. (oh yeah, the friend is gorgeous).
I sent him a message saying that maybe I made this in to too much and I would stay out of his way. I am confused and a bit sad.
kat
I sent him a message saying that maybe I made this in to too much and I would stay out of his way. I am confused and a bit sad.
WHY DID YOU DO THAT??? That sounds pretty defeatist kat and that is totally not you!
I understand being disappointed though. I'm sorry it's not going the way you had hoped.
Hey kat..
It's great that this guy has given you such a positive boost.
Now stop pursuing. Don't send self defeating passive/aggressive messages. Stop trolling on FB to see what's going on in his life. If he wants to be around you, he will. And if he doesn't, he'll avoid you.
The interesting thing is that many guys are drawn to a woman they have to pursue.
Go on with your life, appreciate the fun and great feelings you experienced and let him find you.
The ball is in his court and you have the world before you!
*hugs*
PS.. focus on you.. and ask yourself why you NEED/WANT him so much. Take care of you, heal and have the confidence to seek and not expect less than a healthy relationship.
Well as I have already sent it...
Just feeling down I suppose, I hate the end of that "girl" time as I get just as emotional as I do at the beginning!
I knew he was going to be out of town the majority of the month, I knew his daughter was graduating and I knew his ex would be in town. He has several women that are interested in him, which is fine but hard to "see". My own insecurities hopping up. I didn't tell him that I was confused or sad though.
See I am being an idiot today.
kat
As far as why I want him so much, I think I answered that when I was talking to my Mom yesterday. I haven't been with someone that is "equal" to me in a long time. When I say equal I mean as in having strong personalities, having an adventuresome spirit. Sort of like recognizing yourself in someone else. Certainly doesn't happen everyday.
I think I scared myself.
kat
KAT!
It's not 'poor me' time.. it's thank goodness I'm over the tail end of an explanation point celebration.
Moping about him is like moaning that dust bunnies mate. So what? Do what you need to do to feel better.. then take care of you.
You are far too vivacious to let a man, a bean counter no less, bring you down!
*hugs*
OK!! All right it isn't poor me time. It is I slipped and am picking myself up time. He didn't DO anything, this was all me, overthinking. Time to back off and move forward. Maybe give my brain a rest. Oh and maybe quit reading the home page on FB.
kat
Dittos to what Gyps has said.
The weather isn't helping. It is raining and cold. Terribly gloomy. I shouldn't have reacted the way I did. I get it. I let my imagination get the better of me. I need to lift myself up.
Honestly this is me. In a funk of my own making. K didn't do or say anything. Time to get of the dumps and move on.
kat
My mood is definitely affected by the weather, so I understand.
(((Kat)))
At a girl!!!!!
I am going to a movie tonight if I can get out of here fast enough. The boys want to take me.
That is one way to get in a better mood.
My horoscope today:
During this time you probably feel hurt, offended or ignored and therefore you have withdrawn into yourself, and do not allow anyone to get really close to you. At the same time, though, deep down you want to participate, enjoy life, love and be loved. Nevertheless, you should not expect too much of yourself in this respect. You probably need seclusion or a withdrawal to get over everything. In that case you should not bury yourself in your pain as that will not make things better. You will possibly find that the behavior of the other person was unintentional, and that your present situation mainly mirrors your own sensitivity.
wow.. that is spot on Kat.. scary isn't it!!
Too bad you didn't live closer we could definately do Sex and the City together!!
Everyone has their down days...Go to the movies and have fun!
This is off a program which uses my actual time of birth, not just a Leo horoscope. Yes freaky!!
I wish you were closer too! I know there are several us planning on going just not together.
Yes, it is a down day but I am working on pulling it back up.
kat
(((((kat)))))
I was thinking.
Being a glass half full kind of guy...
I think it might be a step forward that you are having these feeling. I think it means you are starting to be able to let down your guard a bit. The down side is, we can get hurt. But the upside will outweigh that, in the end.
I think you are right. I was so tentative when we first started talking again. Then I just let myself feel. I didn't think jealousy/insecurity would be some of those feelings. Now that has come up, I wonder if it isn't some sort of residual emotions from being cheated on.
Being forced to step back due to the timing of all this does hurt because I put myself out there. It sort of feels like rejection again. These are issues I need to work through and thankfully, I have the time to do that.
Really I feel it is so important to stress these are MY issues.
kat
Sure, they are your issues. And I think recognizing that is a huge part of learning to deal with them.
Hang in there, (((((kat)))))!
I think I really need to look at this situation and see why I am scared. Do I have a reason to feel jealous or insecure? Those are hard questions. So I guess this just goes to show that I am still a work in progress.
kat
Ok, step back, look at yourself and think what actually did happen. No assumptions.
K
We carry baggage kat.All of us.
Thinking out loud:
I had two really great "dates" with him. We talked about planning out something else but nothing concrete.
Issue: He had a conference close by and I hoped he would get to see me. I felt let down by my own expectations when he couldn't.
Issue: He had plans to meet up with a couple of college friends and he brought his family too. I had no thought of seeing him but I felt bad when I saw a picture he posted and she really is gorgeous.
Ok that is just a start. I have to boogie to make it to the movie. Will post more later.
kat
Iron Man is really fun. Go see it if it isn't sold out!
Ok more thoughts:
I was trying to see if I could see him on a particular weekend and that is when he told me he would be on vacation with his family then. Also running all over the state since he consults for about a 100 facilities.
Issue: I got bummed out again. Feeling left out. As I write this I am starting to see a pattern. Today I found out just his friend posting on FB that she was going to be in Florida too. All my insecurities came rushing to the surface.
See I told you he didn't do anything. This has been me and setting expectations and getting my hopes up. I am an idiot!!
kat
kat,
No. You. Are. Not,
You are human, decent, and deserve better.
Oh, Kat! Sorry things have been feeling icky. I am having a rough time when I haven't even gotten a kiss yet! Hopefully things will start looking up for you.
Glad you liked the movie. I want to rent the first one so I can go see the second one!
I think they will. I reread my message I sent and really doesn't sound as terrible as I imagined in the darkness I had floating around me yesterday. He will probably say WTH is she talking about??
I got in a funk. I felt sorry for myself and reacted before I thought about it. I do need to keep GAL and keep the focus on me and see what happens from there.
The wonderful thing about him being busy is that he is hardly checking FB. Post pics of his kids and stuff oh and ST Louis Ram Football Players that he met, but otherwise not just on chatting.
Today is the last day of that planetary funk and things should start looking even better. It is my Mom's birthday too. so another reason to be a little more light hearted.
kat
Just an after thought. I didn't realize how busy K was when we started this. A lot of this month is family stuff and I appreciate that. I am dealing with my issues and we will still see where we will go.
kat
I feel you! I am sure it is frustrating but you are right to take a second look at things and try not to put your emotions on them. He is busy bc he is busy, it happens sometimes!
I need to step back in my own sitch and keep working on me...so I don't project my needs/past experiences on someone else.
I doubt he will make much of the email. When I hadn't heard from R in several days after we were supposed to go out, I sent him an "It's fine, I am ok with being friends" message bc I was feeling rejected. Didn't say I felt rejected, the message was actually not bad, just seemed bad bc I knew the mindset I had when I sent it! Good thing they aren't mind readers...
And we are talking/texting again so he didn't freak out.
Have a good day! More storms?
More storms! Bobbijo is dying to be kissed in the rain. I was just letting her know we are in for more storms.
Wow they just wiped every bit of that conversation off
I know because I thought they would just take off her post instead of from there on. I mean what if I had said something profound!! LOL Oh more like you guys would have gotten me back on track.
I wish I was a fairy, each and everyone of my dear friends here (including myself)would be having hot, passionate sex with a great partner, non stop!!! (storms optional btw)
S
If we all wish it will it come true? Or maybe we just need to vote for it! LOL I love the way you think.
kat
Me too!!!
I think as one gets older, sleep becomes more a priority than non-stop sex.
I used to have a standing order policy...wake me at any hour to have sex. As gray hair is starting to emerge, I am reevaluating my policy now...
OK, how about almost non-stop sex except for an occasional nap???
I had a dream that we went for 5 hours. Is that good enough for our age??
kat
Lol, I drop in and guess what the discussion is
I wish Kalni was a fairy...
Seriously, if I had to choose between sleep and sex, all I can say is, I've had two years to sleep...
As far as I am concerned, the wake me anytime rule is still in effect! Not that it matters, just now!
Five hours, kat? I think I'd be in the hospital! But I wouldn't mind trying....
You must be talking about a waking dream.
... or else you've got a better handle on your dreams than I do. Is it even possible to be able to account for the real passage of time in a
sleeping dream?
I want THOSE kinds of dreams!!!
Well since we spent nearly 4 hours making out I think it is quite realistic....LOL I think we are all in a large dose of sex in reality. Where are my car keys??
kat
I meant to say we are all in
need of a large dose of sex in reality.
I think I'm in a large dose of sex reality! It's a myth!
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this but
I think as one gets older, sleep becomes more a priority than non-stop sex.
No, no, no, no
no!
Seriously, if I had to choose between sleep and sex, all I can say is, I've had two years to sleep...
Yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes!
So we are all deprived and need a good old healthy dose of love and sex. OK, some may settle for just sex
I guess we don't need to even think how long it has been...going on 30 months!! YIKES!!
kat
I have no doubt that anyone here could get a good dose of sex anytime they wanted pretty much. We just all have standards higher than getting someone drunk at a bar!
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this but
I think as one gets older, sleep becomes more a priority than non-stop sex.
No, no, no, no
no!
Seriously, if I had to choose between sleep and sex, all I can say is, I've had two years to sleep...
Yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes!
Thanks Gardener....been along time since I had a man saying "yes, yes, yes" to me!
I have no doubt that anyone here could get a good dose of sex anytime they wanted pretty much. We just all have standards higher than getting someone drunk at a bar!
And THIS is why it is so frustrating! Dang us and our 'high standards'...
But, yeah, I have em....
Here, here!! Besides I can't stand the smell of alcohol so that won't be getting a guy that likes to drink before any where with me!!
kat
I have no doubt that anyone here could get a good dose of sex anytime they wanted pretty much. We just all have standards higher than getting someone drunk at a bar!
And THIS is why it is so frustrating! Dang us and our 'high standards'...
But, yeah, I have em....
So does this mean we are doomed? or cursed even? lol
kat
Well it depends on how you look at it.
Disease or disease free?
Disease free please!! Keep those high standards in place! I have no doubt that we will all find a suitable(meaning extraordinary) person to share that experience with when the time comes.
kat
I just had a meeting with my boss and was shocked by the revelation that hit me after. In my marriage I got so used to H never giving much of an opinion or helping me work things out, that I just took care of things the best I could. Never really discussed it with H after I took care of it either. I was trained so well that it has carried over into my work life!!
I need to change this! I know when I started working here I kept thinking why are they( meaning my boss and his wife) asking each other that...just do it! I see that with most people I am going to have to change the way I think about that and communicate. Nothing wrong with being independent as long as the other person knows what you are doing!
kat
OK just to break up that serious mood...lets imagine sex on a beach! Discuss...lol
Kat,
Instead of imagine, how about a challenge? Who can make it happend first? LOL
I guess I would really have to think if that would be exciting or not. Maybe at sunset or sunrise.
Maybe we should think of what our ultimate experience would be and then work towards making that happen.
kat
Trust me....sand in your crack is NO FUN!
Maybe that is why you need a big blanket.
Oh, that doesn't work. That sand blows everywhere........
I've always thought this was a good idea but maybe not in practice!! I think Mishka is spot on lol. Unless it was a pebbly beach but I reckon that would be just painful
Well then we just might be moving that fantasy off the beach!!
OK, I have accepted the assignment, got me thinking, will have to report back...
No fair! I have lots of huge beaches (some secluded) nearby, but the love making conditions are usally less than ideal..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvjgNj4fFc
Not a fan of the beach sex, but there was this one time in a hot tub...well let's just say it was hot on multiple levels
Now wouldn't you know K has a hot tub!! Now all kinds of scenarios are playing through my slightly warped mind.
And THAT is why Dan never wanted to get into the hot tubs inside of hotel rooms...
So I am good because it is in his house...
Yes Kat you are in the clear...don't have to wonder how many others have enjoyed themselves in the same place!
Especially since he just got it this past year after he and his former girlfriend broke up! This idea is starting to sound better all the time.
Ewww - never thought about that, but fortunately this was my own hot tub!
I once had a "good time" with a girl friend at a semi-natural hot spring in the Oregon desert before meeting XW...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-161779828093934927
Ewwww!!! I had never thought of that either!!!!
Now I think we all have the heebeejeebees about even getting into a hotel room hot tub, let alone getting all hot there!! Ewwwwww is right!
Any other unusual but romantic spots come to mind?
Off the romantic idea talk for a minute: thank goodness it is Friday and yeah my parents are back on for going to Italy next week!!
Back to our fantasy programming!
LOL!
A rolling meadow full of flowers.
I like that!! I still need to go back and look at Kerry's clip. He is always finding interesting stuff. lol
It was just a clip of a father and his 2 kids at the Alvord hot spring that I stayed at on full moon night with a girlfriend.
The image I had in my head of a hot spring and what your lovely video showed didn't quite match up!
Under a full moon, maybe that is the romantic factor.
Oh I got another one, under a waterfall.
Today is one of those days where so many things are going haywire at once!! My parents internet is down, so they want to use mine. No problem. They have some stuff to get done before they take off for Italy.
The girls room is picked up but they didn't do the floor. They have to keep it really neat in order to keep the playstation they got at Christmas(grandparents requirement). So I am dashing around trying to help with the last minute sweep. My bathroom sink gets clogged ...again. So I am dealing with that and lastly my internet went down which also means my phone is down!!
Tonight is also D11's graduation which I will need to get her ready for and I have to get the kids to decide on a present for their Dad since it is his birthday tomorrow!! And it is also S14's graduation in the morning. On a side note, K leaves for vacation with family(and college friend too) tomorrow.
Then Wednesday I get to take my parents to KC airport for their flight. Is there an energy drink that will get me through the next 3 days??
kat
If you can figure out when to pencil one in, I would gladly do it! lol
I also really wish the clouds and rain would go away. This has just made for an extremely dreary month! I think we have maybe hit the 70's a couple of times in April!
Positive attitudes need sunshine.
kat
Kat, you are raising 4 kids, you can do ANYTHING!!
Hugs
K
You called for Sunshine, right?
S
Thanks, just the right dose at the right time!!
I survived the two graduations! They were chaotic as always. D11 was really pretty in her deep blue dress and I curled her hair. She looked like a little grown-up...sob. S14 graduation was quiter, thank goodness. He had to have hugs from all of his girl friends and his favorite teachers and parents. He has become Mr Social. lol so much better than the last 3 years where he was quite and withdrawn.
I didn't cry, though my eyes welled up. They are all great kids and I am so lucky to have them. At S14's graduation I lost my name and became known just as Ryan's Mom.
kat
Oh, we're supposed to have names?????
Mine has been Marc's mom for so long I forgot!
It is really funny too because S17 was gushing over his sister last night. He couldn't believe how pretty she is/was. He kept telling me how all of his friends adore me and think of me as the cool Mom of the bunch. Don't know how that happened but I adore a bunch of them too!
I am even friends with a few of S14's friends on the alt. I am so glad that they feel good about including me!
Looking into the hot air balloon ride, I am going to try to work it in hopefully during the next couple of weeks. Also just had a client call and he told me he knew a guy that skydived and he would try to get some info on that for me!
I know it is good to do the bucket list for me, and it is ok if I do it alone.
kat
Absolutely ok to do it alone! That way you 'own' the experience and make it what you want without any influence from someone else and without adjusting your own observations to match theirs.
All I know is that I have to break down the "excuses" barrier and make things happen.
Isn't it funny how we start to introduce ourselves? Instead of my name is such and such it is now so and so's Mom or Dad. I am trying to learn how to define myself outside of my kids, thus the list.
Glad everything went well for you! They do grow up so fast! I think you have some great kids--wonder how they got that way???
kat,
Looking into the hot air balloon ride, I am going to try to work it in hopefully during the next couple of weeks.
Do it, do it,
do it! It is absolutely fabulous! And so peaceful. And slow - like time
itself slows down!
Also just had a client call and he told me he knew a guy that skydived and he would try to get some info on that for me!
I'm just startin' to come around on this one. Not quite there, yet.
Look into soaring. I did that.
That was the best!
...is ok if I do it alone.
By all means, yes!
And didja ever notice that "alone" is how one often meets others...?
I really don't know some days.
I am exhausted and heading off to bed. Get to take my parents to the airport nice and early tomorrow. Somehow I feel like a kid getting the house to myself or at least knowing that they won't be calling me for a while to see if I am alive since I didn't answer the phone. Maybe I was doing something right then or maybe not even home. Oh well they will always be parents. Good and bad, I'll take them.
night, kat
Thanks Gardener! I did para sailing once and loved it. I thought it would be loud but it was so peaceful and quiet. We did that on our last married family vacation in the Caribbean.
I have a long list. I put it on face book once, maybe back in November. I am sure it will change some as time passes but I hope to do something once every month or two. I will probably even end up rewriting it now so I can look at it everyday.
kat
I did para sailing once and loved it.
Me, too.
But
Soaring......
Man!
g'night.
Kat,
I'm a little late but thanks for the Mother's Day wishes on my thread in infidelity. I don't get on this site much anymore, I've just moved on. It was a quiet day. Hope yours was, as well.
H has moved out -- just this week. So our trial separation begins! Maybe once I get my head straightened out a bit I'll come back. I'm sure I'll check in from time to time.
Parasailing? Sounds fun. I would do that but skydiving -- no way!
Joie
Skydiving at least the first few times I think you do in tandem with the experienced person pulling the cord and you just get to focus on the ...falling. lol
Life is too short. I was looking at pics my parents took of their first visit to Italy some 25 years ago or so. My dad who loves to drive fast thought it was crazy and got flipped off by a little old lady because he wasn't driving fast enough!!
I haven't made it to Italy yet but I have been to Europe 7 times so that is something. The boys have both been and S17 has actually been twice but doesn't remember much. So I am training them on being world travelers. Next year S17 and I are going for his graduation. We won't be staying too long because I can't afford it but it is the experience that counts.
I have to get ready for work.
kat
Well I actually survived those three wacky, stressful days! My boss is gone the next couple of days which sometimes makes the days drag.
I am so ready to do...nothing. lol Oh but I want to sleep so I guess that is something.
kat
That is something....sleep is an activity after all!
The thought of a bunch of us getting together has really got me hyped up! The idea of no kids for a few days(at least for mine) sounds so nice. Remember I have only had 2 kid free days in 3 years!
kat
Sounds like fun! How are you enjoying your parent-free life this week? Enjoying the freedom???
Well since I just dropped them off, I don't yet. lol They kept telling me that they were going to call me and they didn't call before the flight to Italy!! Parents!!
If I didn't have to go take care of all of their cr@p I would be happier! Just had a night out with J. He told me it was nice to be with me because he didn't have to carry the conversation. lol
kat
I remember picking S17 up from daycare one time and the daughter of the daycare provider came out saw me and said "Christofee your Momma is here" and all the kids came running and knocking into each other. I think she was 3 and Christopher was maybe 2. It was cute that she couldn't say his name right!
kat
Looking into doing a zip line with S14. S17 is scared of heights and won't do it. I am going to go on a weekend that ex has the girls and S17 is working so no one feels like they missed out.
I might also rotate activites with the kids. A few weeks ago I did the haunted house with D11, now this with S14. Have to find something more specific for the other 2.
kat
That sounds like a fun plan!
I've always wanted to do a zip line! Where do you have to go to do it?
Missouri it seems. I will be blowing through money if I do too many things on my list at once!!
This weekend I just wanted to be anywhere but here. I am feeling stagnant. Too many memories here and I want to shake them off. I know I won't do anything about it for a while but so wish that I could. If I didn't have the kids at home, I would have already left.
I hate when I get like this. It usually comes from too much introspection. Just have to get past this funk.
Kat,
I really know the feeling. I am sort of in the same situation here. While I have some good friends in this area of NC, I am painfully aware that I no longer have any serious ties here -- other than my two S's. xW, xMIL and their family have soured me on this place, and all of my NC relations have long ago passed away or moved away. And there are too many negative memories that I am still trying to overcome, it seems. If it were not for my two kids, I would have pulled up stakes a long time ago.
Coincidentally, I have relatives still in eastern TN, as well as AR and MS. So I have been thinking for some time, since the S, that western TN (Memphis eastward, as far as Nashville) might be a good central location, reachable to/from all family.
But I am looking at another 13 years at least before I can think about that, after my youngest has flown the nest.
I do understand and empathize with your sentiments.
Thanks Nocode. I fell in love with TN several years ago and again when I went back about 3.5 years ago. Doesn't mean that is where I will end up but a change sounds really good.
I am going to start writing. So much of the story is just sitting in my head. Ideas keep filling in. Even if no one ever reads it, at least I will have done it for me.
kat
So I can put you down for a copy, huh? lol
kat
Add me to the waiting list please!
You guys are sweet.
kat
Me too! I'm a voracious reader. Bring it on kat!
So I caved last week and replaced my camera and bought an ipod touch. One came in today and the other came in yesterday. Updating my tech stuff. lol
My Dad called today and is absolutely thrilled with the Ferrari factory tour. The whole trip has now been worth it he says. He even got a private tour of where they do the classic restorations! Just because he mentioned to some guy that he was disappointed that it wasn't part of the tour. I guess it pays to say what you want sometimes!
I am sad that they will be back on Friday but the said they have been there long enough already. I hope I don't get that way when I am older. I would want to savor all of it and probably gain a ton in the process.
Please Italy don't sink or fall into the sea before I get there.
kat
Haha. I am thinking about buying a new camera. My old one is just well, very old! LOL. It's digital, but about 5 years old. Big and bulky compared to the new ones. I should ask for a new one for my birthday....
Now that I am calmed down again...the kids didn't put the ferrets up before they left with their Dad so they were both out. didn't discover that right away but once I did, I had to hunt for the female. No luck so I sat down in living room to chill for a moment and a bat comes flying in!! I mean this thing was swooping and not just landing somewhere. I was opening the door and trying to get it to go out but afraid to leave the door unattended as I didn't want the ferret to run outside. I was having no luck so I called the kids and asked if Dad could bring them home to help me.
Luckily after the getting the bat to the rear of the house I was able to get it out the back door. Shortly after the kids got home and they found their ferret. I called Karen to try and calm down, thanks by the way. Whew!! I about had a heart attack!!
kat
Wow, you've been having a very exciting time! Glad you're okay and the kids' ferret too. And that all ended well.
Much rather have my excitement another way please! Yes it took quite a while as I was ducking and trying to open the door nearest to it. I was acting very much like a girl and my heart was racing for a good while after I got it outside!
kat
Wow! Crazy business!
I didn't realize those were legal anywhere in the US. They're not in Cali.
You got your workout in at least!
Ferrets are legal in a lot of states. They are in GA too. Freaky little animals but they're cute at the same time.
Maybe she was talking about the bat??!! lol Yep, bat I am giving you a ticket for being in this house. HA, HA
I had ferrets when I was in high school. Got them for the kids about a year after this mess started. They have pulled them through this pretty well. I have a pic of them posted on my wall in the alt. I love how they hop around and sort of laugh while doing it!
kat
No, Mishka is right. I was talking about the ferrets. I looked it up, they are legal in about half the states, but a lot of places require permits and sometimes it varies by county.
The bat deserves a speeding ticket if nothing else though!
When we bought the ferrets when I was in high school we did have 3 litters. the ones we bought now have both benn fixed(as if they were broken). lol
I may be wrong but I thought I read somewhere that the females will die without sex unless they are fixed. Kind of sounds like us!
kat
Blimey that sounds like a lot of effort
I love ferrets!
Hope you enjoy Sex and the City!
So today is my 2nd unanniversary. I could focus on what it would have been (21years) but I don't think that will serve me well. So instead it my unanniversary.
On the way to work a truck tried to cross over two lanes and would have taken me and my cute and sexy car out!! What a way to start the day. Thank Goodness for good brakes!
As last week was crazy the first 3 days, this week it is the last three. Took all the kids out to my parents house to help feed birds, kittens and water plants. Then drove out to the theater to see Shrek with the 3 younger kids. S17 and I saw it Sunday. Tonight is Sex and the City and tomorrow right after work, off to the airport to pick up my parents. I am tired already. lol Thank goodness we have a long weekend.
kat
My boss asked if I want to take a vacation day tomorrow since it is so nice out. I am no dummy.
I enter a "lottery", for Sex and the City 2 :2 tickets to NY and 4000 euros to spend on shopping. If I win, I am taking my BGF and we are in...heaven
I liked the first one better but I went with a Sex and the City newbee so we had a good time. So happy that I will get to use tomorrow now to get a lot of scud work done tomorrow and enjoy the whole weekend the way I want!! Yipee!!
kat
I didn't go to the movie, but met with friends who were going for cosmos beforehand. Then I headed to home depot LOL.
Yesterday I went shopping for groceries, messed with my hair and felt exhausted! Had to run and get my parents. they just got back from Italy and were telling me about all of their misadventures on the ride home!
It was almost 90 yesterday and I about died. I told you heat and I don't get along! LOL
kat
S14 just broke a window. Forget the plans I had made for us to go out because now I, correction, now he has to deal with this. I hate how upset I am.
kat
I let it blow over but really hate that I got upset. Anyway I packed the 3 youngest off to Emporia( home of William Alan White) to go to the small zoo there. It is not the smallest in the state but really quaint. It has ponds and waterfalls throughout with lots of flowers. Just what I needed to calm my soul. As a side note S17 was working, I didn't leave him out.
Got caught in a strong storm coming home. Actually had to pull over to the side of the road for about 5 minutes. I should have waited a tad bit longer but can't look back now. A fairly nice way to end what started as a not so great day.
kat
Sounds like a good day. Except for the window of course. S14 is your responsible one, isn't he? I went through a period where S16 was breaking stuff; a couple of lamps. Made him pay for half the last time (he was about 14 then too come to think of it), and told him he'd have to pay the whole repair or replacement the next time and he hasn't now for about 2 years.
Are you having a good holiday? I wish I had the kids, but did have them most of the weekend at least...
Yes, he is the responsible one but I have no illusions that he is still a kid. He wasn't even wrestling or anything but tossed a toy on to the girls bed that bounced up and broke the window! Nothing ordinary with this group.
It is starting to get a bit muggy from all the rain last night. All of my local friends are at ball tournaments with their kids. So I am hanging out with my kids and hoping for a calm day.
kat
Kat, I was just thinking remember back a couple years ago. We never had calm days! Things have really gotten so much better and more peaceful, don't you think?
Isn't that the truth!! Who would have ever thought it could happen now? Yes things are much more peaceful, though the kids do a great job of keeping me busy.
kat
This is too funny. I am friends with K's Mom on the alt. She isn't really great with it but we can usually carry on a conversation. She cracked me up yeaterday because I sent her a question privately and she answers on my wall!
Don't worry, not asking anything that would embarrass me too much but it is kind of cute. Yes, she did like me from before.
kat
Got caught in a strong storm coming home. Actually had to pull over to the side of the road for about 5 minutes. I should have waited a tad bit longer but can't look back now.
Do they still allow people to
ride bikes in Kansas?
Hey, if we didn't have kids, we would have no reason to replace broken things.
Only if they are going to turn into evil witches as they pedal by! lol
I hear you on the kids thing. I am still trying to get them to understand that by them doing one more step, Mom would be saved 4. They will get there.
Looks like you guys had fun over the holiday. You have some really cute kids there.
kat
Thanks. They keep me very busy. I could not imagine having four!
You have to look at it the same as when you only had one, another one didn't change things so much and the same with the third. The 4th did change things because while she was an easy baby she had a difficult toddlerhood.
I always try to let the kids know that someday, when I am not here you will have each other. To lean on, to laugh with and to cry with and that seems to have helped them get closer. The boys are close, the girls are close and both girls adore big brother number 2. He is their protector and biggest tormentor.
So I guess what I am trying to say is that they each help each other out and we are muddling through.
kat
Jeg stiller mig selv derude og nu jeg hader at jeg gjorde. Hoppe til konklusioner, men nogle mennesker gřr det sĺ let at. Masser af grćde og forbandelse i dansk. Jeg er sĺ gal pĺ mig selv lige nu. Grćdende nogle flere. Yeah, lige nu, jeg hader mćnd! Takker Gud jeg kan tale et andet sprog... jeg bare ikke altid stave.
Thanks for letting me vent. Just not ready to say it in English yet.
kat
Wow I am good, because I can't open these at work! thanks for the smile.
kat
(((((kat)))))
Vi er ikke alle forfćrdeligt.
HUGS.
Og nej, jeg taler ikke det, men jeg er klog.
You are right, you are not. Just an overall feeling last night that I may be completely wrong about. I hate that because of what I have been through, I see the worst when there isn't anything there.
Du blev utrolig sřd til fik til ulejlighed at oversćtte min aftrćk. Siger meget om dig som person. Mange tak.
kat
Du er faktisk!! Rart at du husket at det ogsĺ var danske. Du kan nu kun den anden mand, der har oversat for mig!
It is stuff like this that is can earn you big points with the ladies out there.
hugs, kat
Jeg hĺber i dag, er pćnere til dig, Kat.
An féidir leat labhairt as Gaeilge freisin?
HOLY CRAP!!! I thought I had stumbled into some alternate world where everyone is speaking an alternate language.....then I realized it was Danish!!!
Mange tak Bill. Let's make that three guys that have bothered to translate for me.
Thanks so much. It means more than you guys will ever know.
kat
As for Gaelic, no, I don't speak it. I would have loved to replied in Gaelic but they have the translator blocked.
But I can say Top of the Morning to you with a dead on Irish brogue!.
kat
They surprised me too!! It is so nice to feel loved by my virtual frineds here. Thanks.
kat
I translated it out of curiosity and in the hope I could help. Alas, I fully agree with most of what you said so I'm no help at all!!
Is today going any better kat?
Aw thanks! Sometimes a second language does come in handy. Especially when you are just really emotionally.(Like when am I not lately?)
I had spoken with a neutral party this weekend and she said I should say what I want with K. I think I do but I guess I am not always very clear. Anyhow, we used to write letters all the time(in the dark ages before internet), so I thought writing him would be the best way to explain myself. I wrote the story of us: everything, all the way back to age 17. I read it to my boys. S14 thought it was really good but asked me what I was afraid of and what do I want to have happen. So I added that on. It was all written in the context of a girl met a boy type thing. It got me weepy just reading it to them.
Anyway I sent it yesterday. Lots of confusion on somethings with ex. All the emotions of the letter, frustration about my jumping to conclusion and perhaps not seeing things for what they are set me off. K just got back from vacation with his whole family(Mom and Dad, kids, their friends,his college friend and two kids, sister and brother-in-law). Just seeing them together upset me. They only call each other good friends, just like J and I do. Who knows? I want to stop feeling jealous and insecure and yes folks, I know, I am the only one that can do that.
kat
That was a lot of emotion to deal with in just a couple of days time. I'm sure you will work your way through it though. You're a tough cookie!!!!
Letter writing is such a lost art. I was never good at it so the internet has actually helped!
Thanks Mish! Yes, a true lost art. It was hand written too so hopefully that will score some points. I had sent a check in his birthday card to pay for dinner back in Branson. However, I had the wrong address and it came back after a few weeks. So I included that too.
Don't beat me up on that. It was only fair and it was my intention that night anyway. I feel like a spy just trying to get his correct address!(he did rattle it off to me so I knew after the fact that I mailed the card that it went to the wrong address.)
kat
This was really cute, when I read the letter and D11 heard it she said "Awww, it's such a sweet love story." I said honey, this is about K and I and she says,"I know." Maybe it is all a matter of perception.
He could get it today or maybe tomorrow. Funny how it could take a couple of days but it is only a 3.5 hour drive. That is why they call it snail mail. lol
kat
True that!
How fun.
Hey just checking in! Don't know how to translate but sorry you have been having 'emotional' days. I have, too. Trying to just keep swimming and leave it behind me for smoother waters.
Loved our storms last night. Hope you got some too!
Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming, swimming, swimming.......said a la Dori.
Good language tools is the best!!! I even got it to translate what NC posted even tough I wasn't sure of the language.
I knew it was Gaelic but couldn't access the part that would translate back a response. Darn! Yes, storms that kept waking me up either because they were loud or they stopped the breeze from the window fan. lol
I am sure so much of this is that girl time. Lately it has gotten bad on the back end. Good thing I am going to the Dr tomorrow and hopefully can get that all back to normal. Maybe then I will have a better picture of things and not cloud them so much with emotion. By jove, I think I hit the nail on the head!!
kat
Oh yes.....our little friends....HORMONES FROM HELL!
It looks as if I was right about K and his old college friend. It hurts a lot. I wish I hadn't let him back in but it was really sweet for a couple of months of fun. Slap me if anything starts to happen between us again.
kat
Kat - just caught up (I think). If I read that all right, I am so sorry.
Now I am really confused though, because the person I thought he was with(his college friend) told him that she thought that was wonderful and congratulations...
If he didn't get my letter yesterday(the one pouring out my heart) he will probably get it today. Nothing to do about it. Well, except be embarrassed.
kat
Hmm....I am not connecting the dots of your posts very well...how did you know something was up with him/friend? And then find out that she congratulated him on that "something"??
Was he posting on FB or something??
If you don't want to share, fine...just trying to figure out what's up!
I too am a little confused but it sounds like there really was something brewing with that friend and now it's turned into a R? If so, I'm sorry kat. That has to sting, but look to the fun memories you have and ignore what is happening with him now.
What do you have planned this weekend? Anything fun?
That is the thing though. It doesn't seem to be her. She made a comment like congratualations. Happy for you, but nothing changed on her wall/page. I don't know. I was just sick about it last night because the letter I wrote is out there. Either he got it yesterday or will today. Putting myself out there was so hard and now it kind of blew up in my face. I know it is good that I did it...HUGE step for me. Since my heart is breaking again, I suppose it healed alright before.
Nothing planned yet but I can't sit around moping.
kat
No, It is better to get it out and have my friends help than to hold it in. They got back Saturday. I talked with his Mom some over the weekend. He had posted some pics of Florida but nothing that would lead one to think anything was going on.
I wrote my letter Monday night after talking to a friend who said I should say what I want. Let him know why I am scared and why I backed off. So I did that in the context of girl met boy...Our whole story so he would get where I was coming from.
Tuesday after work, his daughter had posted pics including group pics. In one he is holding her hand.(college friend) Something really simple, maybe nothing but it hurt to see. I had already mailed my letter.
Wednesday after I get home I see on FB home page that he has changed his status to in a relationship but he isn't saying with who for the moment. I automatically assume it is her because they just got back from vacation. Several of his friends are asking who, but he isn't saying anything. Then college friend posts on his wall that she is happy for him and Congratulations. Me...I feel sick and am crying. I posted something which I thought sounded nice but this morning when I saw it, it felt wrong, so I deleted it.
The thing about her posting a comment made me think it wasn't her. Plus she hadn't changed her status or anything.
Thursday, I still feel sad but I don't know anything more. I am just confused. Help!
kat
Hello ms. kat..
*hugs*
Assumptions, looking for answers before asking a question creates a stew of mucky proportions. And regardless of his answer, look at what your actions are telling you.
*hugs*
This week certainly I am an emotional mess. I need to not look for trouble but not be blind either. If he doesn't want me toss him overboard, because there are more fish in the sea. And gee, I am not such a bad catch myself.
Just have to believe those last 2 lines and I will be doing better.
kat
And what actual knowledge of anything are you basing your choices on?
You mean because once again I assuming that he didn't "pick" me? If I am a bit off today forgive me but plaese calrify. thanks.
kat
kat, I have so been where you are, I can so absolutely appreciate what you're feeling. I had sort of a regular cycle there for 6 months or so where I'd misinterpret, over-react, or just catastrophize myself into a completely insecure "I can't do this anymore!!" crisis. incredibly painful...but a learning experience. fortunately the recipient of my drama is an incredibly patient and understanding man...and we laugh about it now; hasn't happened since--oh, early January maybe? or late November? for me it was a lot of things triggering my major abandonment issues; what seems to have stopped the cycling is just a better understanding of myself, my needs, and accepting that it's okay to even HAVE needs. and there were some distinctly hormonal influences at time.
I have noticed that I have been really emotional(weeping at the drop of a hat,moody) just right before through right after that time each month. So guess where I am now. Yes over-reacting is part of this too.
hopefully we can get that fixed up at the appointment today. Even though I know it won't be immediate, it will help get me back to being normal.
No this isn't a pretty place to be. Very unlike me and on that you guys will just have to take my word on it. Yes my self esteem was way low for a long time but it has been getting back up there. This insecurity thing regarding the college friend took me for a real loop. Natural to compare but that should have been the end of it.
I don't know how much K felt the "drama" except when I just initially told him that I was backing off. I did address that in the letter. So I suppose it would still be a good thing for him to read. If nothing else it will clear the air on my side. I really do need to not assume the worst of every situation.
OT, can you still clarify. Thanks.
kat
I am still very confused about what you know. I am seeing a lot of half-formed conclusions and assumptions and very little that actually resembles fact.
If you want to know what is or isn't going on, you should get it from the horse's mouth.
Sorry you have been caught in this cycle. Hang in there chica.
let me just recommend my standard book rec: Journey from Abandonment to Healing, by Susan Anderson. If I've already mentioned it, I apologize. I really think this is what turned things around for me--understanding the process of grief and recovery from abandonment. working thru some of the exercises and even just being aware of the process and accepting it helped my insecurity tremendously. you know, there's no way we're NOT going to be insecure after getting dumped with our self-esteem in tatters. it's just the normal course of events. but how we respond to it--internally and externally--we have some control over if we have insight into the process.
I am still very confused about what you know. I am seeing a lot of half-formed conclusions and assumptions and very little that actually resembles fact.
If you want to know what is or isn't going on, you should get it from the horse's mouth.
Sorry you have been caught in this cycle. Hang in there chica.
I agree with Michelle. Stop dealing with assumptions that may be just causing you undue stress. Hopefully what you find out is nothing close to what you are imagining.
Oldtimer is just pointing out that one should make choices based upon sound evidence and prudence. Right now, your choices are based upon sketchy evidence and emotions (some caused by Aunt Flo paying her monthly visits).
Thanks Kerry!lol Ok the only things I know:1) I wrote a letter putting it all out there. He may or may not have it yet. 2) He changed his status to "in a relationship" on FB. 3) he just got back from vacation with his family and college friend(a girl).
I am nervous about reaction to #1 and sad about #2 though I have no idea who he is in a relationship with. So I should just be nervous and leave it at that.
kat
You are allowed to feel how you feel.
But how you react to it, that's what matters.
For all you know, he got your letter and decided to change his status cuz he wants to be with you.
He also could have changed it to help avoid some of the spam messages on there that are tailored to single people.
No jumping to conclusions. No assumptions.
If you want a clear answer, talk to him.
(((Kat)))
I am coming into this convo late, but my first thought was, maybe he is 'in a relationship' with you? Or, maybe he has a stalker co-worker or friend who wants more and he is trying to keep her at bay? Who knows?
I am one who also jumps to conclusions but through this I am learning to resist the 'shoot first and ask questions later' mentality.
I would say the only assumption likely to be true at this point is that SHE is not the one, since she congratulated him on it?
Take care, girl...
That is what I thought once I saw her say something about it. So that may be a safe conclusion. The only other thing I can say for sure right now is that my letter is out there somewhere.
After I saw her post congratulations, I thought who else has he been with...her and me. So there was a hope that he got my letter and will talk about it after but that seems strange. Actually the timing of all of it seems strange. I don't know. I guess I will know more once I get home.
kat
Ok college friend is moving to MO.
My head hurts, I need to stop caring.
kat
It sounds like you need to spend some rest and relaxation time in Tucson this summer. Not only to meet with Jeff and the Rockettes, but to also see
"The Thing".
Ok college friend is moving to MO.
My head hurts, I need to stop caring.
kat
I'm sorry, not quite following. is he in MO?
Yes. He lives in Springfield about 3.5 hours away from me. She lives in North Carolina. She is quitting her job and moving her and her 2 boys to MO. Just strange that she would post that comment.
Not my problem.
kat
oh, I'm so sorry!! I think what you learn from this, among other things, is that you trust your instincts, your perceptions. if something is whispering that "something's amiss here," trust your gut. these lessons suck, I know...but to have this kind of pain without learning from it would be such a waste.
UGH...............that is so random,and it sucks. All I have is 'ugh'...sorry.
Yeah, me too. I was brave enough to look at the first part of this thread. Gee I was giddy. It really did feel good. Perhaps I was supposed to get a taste of it so that I would know that it was possible again. I could say I am putting this in perspective and putting one foot in front of the other, but I need a smidge more time .
Maybe I don't always explain myself very well. I really hate that I was right. We only went out a couple times, just a flash in time compared to their 13 days together in 2 months. Still hard to believe that based off of that, you would up and leave your job to move here(or more accurately, MO).
kat
That is a little strange but, of course, you don't know what else has transpired in her life or in his R with her.
All I can say is I'm sorry you were hurt in the process but I think you touched on something very important. You had the giddy experience so you know for certain that your heart is not deadened from the past experiences. You are capable of fully having those butterfly feelings, dreams, and fun with a man. Of course, you already knew you were capable of that on your own!!!! Now, you have the whole package available to you when you are ready!
Do something special for yourself this weekend kat. Go get one of those 30 minute chair massages. Or, have a manicure, pedicure, spray tan....whatever will give you a little PMA boost.
Mish you are right I don't know the entire story. I do know that he was in a relationship until mid-November. He found College friend on FB in May of last year. So he was talking to her as well as me since around the holidays at least. We talked a lot via messages so I can only guess they did too. Regardless it has been a short time frame.
Even though I have been hurt due to this situation, I would hate to see him get hurt because they rushed into all of this. I know he is a big boy, he can hadle what ever happens. So can I.
kat
It probably stings more because you opened yourself up with the letter to him.
As a guy, I dont know that I would feel comfortable writing a detailed letter to someone I like until I have at least rounded the bases a few times with them (which may happen this weekend).
You cant guess as to why he chose her and why she is changing her life and moving to be with him. Nor should you think of any things you could have done different that may have changed his decision.
One things is certain...you will get over this and move on and find someone else. There are a lot of single guys your age in Kansas. I do know that it is best to try and date someone who lives close to you.
Keep your chin up!
Thanks Kerry. Ok where are all the single guys my age at? As for the letter, if I hadn't been his girlfriend before I am not sure if I would have done it. There is some history there and I just wanted to let him know where I was coming from and why I was hesitant to begin with.
I believe in love and all that stuff(sounding a tad bit like Carrie Bradshaw there). It will happen again, someday.
The metropolitan area where you live has around a quarter million people. I would guess there are at least 500 single guys in your age group. And of that group, there are possibly 50 or more who are compatible with you. Cupid will work to set you up soon enough.
Strange as it sounds it is good that this hurts because that means that he meant /means something to me. I also know that I want to be thought of as a partner and an equal, not someone that needs to be rescued in some way.
So gaining more insight is always a good thing.
kat
Well Kerry you need to figure out how to send those 50 my way!! lol Just joking, I know that is MY job. 250,000 people right around here? Lost of small towns with farmers. Best bet is probably right here in the capital. Lots of lawyers(no thanks) and docs with the 2 hospitals.
I don't think a profession is super important to me as long as he likes to explore and travel. I just need to push myself to get out there...YUCK.
kat
So gaining more insight is always a good thing.
kat
it is definitely always a good thing. and rarely is it painless.
Please don't make me go through all 500 to find just those 50! That would be just too cruel. lol
J has been pretty nice about this. He called me twice on Wednesday after I texted about the relationship thing. Even though he asked if I was really surprised(yeah that was kind of mean in my book). That started the waterworks all over again. Then he called before bed to see if I was better. Then he texted me this morning to see if I was ok. I am so lucky to have him as a friend.
I don't know many guys that would listen to you try to figure stuff out, cry about stuff and talk about other guys. Oh except all of you guys on here, duh!
kat
(((((kat)))))
Changing the subject a bit... did you see the list of resorts? Westward Look doesn't have golf on site, I think the rest all do.
Did you post them on FB? I can't access it from work. Let me know.
kat
"Even though he asked if I was really surprised(yeah that was kind of mean in my book). "
Maybe he is trying to get you to take a more objective look at things to get some perspective...
Perhaps, I stepped back because I saw that she was going on the vacation with all of them. I didn't feel good about it and that was when I sent a message that basically said I was stepping back. Just wanted to clarify that we weren't exclusive, though I am a one guy at a time kind of gal.
I felt that there was something going on. I should have just asked him then but hindsight is 20/20.
kat
I did. I'll copy it here!
Westin La Paloma
Esplendor Resort (where they film Primal Grill) a little out of town, but might be interesting
Tubac Resort, also a bit our of town
Mariott Starr Pass... See More
Loews Ventana Canyon
Westward Look
Omni Tucson National
Tucson National, La Paloma, and Westwward Look are probably closest to me, but I figured I'd stay there too, so it doesn't matter much.
I think all of those have golf, and spa stuff.
Ok just a quick run down on these:
Westin 169 a night 2 doubles
Esplendor 119 Th, 103 for both Fri and Sat
Tubac 134 a night
marriott Sold out
Lowes 139 night 2 doubles
Omni 95 king AAA rate, 2 doubles 140 AAA rate
Westward Look has a couple of specials 90.35 a night with 14 day advance prepay, no cancellations/refunds or 99 with breakfast buffet included for 2 adults
Ok what are you guys thinking. go with price and then amenities or compare regardless?
kat
Kat,
I don't really know your story, I just scanned this thread and a bit of your last one. I don't know if you want an outside perspective, but if you do, let me know. I've typed and deleted a few posts to you, lol...
Ot sure you can post. I know you can be blunt but I will try not to cry! lol Long story short: Married for 19 years, 4 kids, this was at least his 2nd affair. Divorced 2 years ago in July. He is now engaged and living with former affair partner.
Old boyfriend K sought me out last September. He had been in an accident and didn't remember us breaking up even! Anyway, took a while to let him in, I did. Had a fun 2.5 months when he met up with old college friend with his family for long weekend. A tad jealous because she is really pretty. Didn't think much more of it until she posted stuff about their upcoming vacation on his wall. 14 people went and I kind of thought this is just because she used to be close to the family, not anything romantic with all those people(including her two kids). Ok so I was wrong. I hadn't taked to him since before the vacation. Oh and he had just said he was planning Fl family vacation.
That's it in a nutshell.
kat
OK.
From here, it doesn't seem that K gave you any indication that he was interested in a dating relationship with you after your first two dates. Indeed, he seems to have consistently turned down your advances from what I can tell. Moreover, you told him you were stepping away and he did nothing to encourage you not to do so. Basically, you did his “ending things” work for him. He took his old college GF with whom he's been in touch with for more than a year on a family vacation after quite a bit of intense dating given the distance between them.
The thing to recognize here is that this was probably more of a fantasy R than anything else -- you haven't truly lost a significant romantic partner in your life because he was not one.
You wrote: “I felt that there was something going on. I should have just asked him then but hindsight is 20/20.”
Well, it depends what you mean. “Hey, I want to make sure we’re on the same page. I feel like you aren’t interested in continuing to date, is that correct?” would seem appropriate. In contrast, “Hey, what’s going on with you and College GF? Are you running around on me? Is she more important to you than me? How could you do this without telling me?...” approach would be way over the top.
Now, it is really time to cut ties. Unfriend him. Quit looking at his FB and his GF’s FB. It’s done.
The fact is: You had an online/phone relationship, a couple of casual dates, things didn't work out. (BTW, this is a good reason to do the in-person stuff VERY soon.) Most dates don't lead to relationships, and most relationships fail. So, this is all entirely normal. You weren’t exclusive. He effectively stopped dating you after two dates. It would have been nice if he had been direct and told you that he wasn’t interested in a dating relationship. Instead, he seems to have gone the weak non-confrontational route. But, other than not being direct, it doesn’t seem like he even led you on. Again, I don’t know what you said in emails, in phone calls, etc… But nothing in what I read suggests that he tried to make you believe that he saw you as a serious dating partner.
Beyond that, you apparently seeing more in what was going on looks to be pretty need driven. Again, entirely normal after a D. But, the need is about you, not about him. Consider that you might have been engaging in a bit of replay of what happened post-bomb -- trying to do it "right" this time, trying to have control, etc... Again, entirely normal. But, again, the feelings of need and desire aren't so much about him, but about the old pain and loss.
But, there is a lot to be gained here. You know that there is a future now. You can be aware of tendencies to react to old stuff in current relationships. (There is no avoiding this, the old stuff will be worked out somewhere with someone. But knowing that helps a lot, and helps avoid going into old cycles. )
Look, pretty much everyone in Surviving goes through a second adolescence, just like the WAS did, the timing is just different. To be blunt, most folks here will have some kind of intense fantasy R based on neediness that then quickly crumbles. It hurts because the bandaid is gone, not because the person is gone. They will go off on wild trips with strangers. They will change their appearance, try out different ways of living in the world. All normal. You are just in the middle of it right now. It’s OK, have fun. But keep an eye out for what works and what doesn’t work for you. Keep your eyes peeled for when you are acting out or engaging in teenage manipulations. And I don’t mean that in a disparaging way. I mean it when I say that pretty much everyone here goes through a second adolescence. It is no coincidence that so many people find themselves in weird relationships with old teenage flames. It is part of remembering who we were *before.* It is part of figuring out who we want to become. Adolescence (even midlife, lol) is exciting, intense, rich. But it is unstable, shifting, a time of experimenting and discovery. It is a time of great opportunity too. Keep your eyes open, welcome the experience, and take better care of yourself through it than you did in actual high school (because you really are older and wiser and more compassionate), and eventually you’ll come out the other side a much fuller and happier person that you ever would have anticipated.
But, to do this, you do sometimes have to pause, stop the FBing, stop browsing for new high heels and sexy underwear, set aside the cell phone, turn down the music that suddenly speaks to you so much more now than it did the last 20 years, and listen to your wise caring objective self tucked deep inside. Look for what you take forward as you reinvent yourself into a whole, flourishing, happy, passionate person, all on your very own.
See Kat, that wasn't so bad! I just hope you didn't waste time and money rushing out to buy tissue.
No I didn't. Short summary didn't include the conversations we had about making plans but had to deal with both businesses and his daughter's senior stuff first. So I don't think it was just one-sided (though you didn't exactly say that). Also she had never been a girlfriend(not that it matters) as he was married at the time. guess that part doesn't matter.
Anyway yes I am on my way to finding a better me. It will all be good. Just need a bit of time.
I am really excited that my parents are taking the boys tomorrow so I will actually have my 3rd night alone in 3 years!! I have no plans...maybe I should make some.
kat
Kat, I miss a day or 2 around here and I missed about 5 pages worth of stuff!!! Sorry to hear about K. ((((((kat))))))))
Not sure what to say. And that doesn't happen much.
I think the great thing is you did open yourself up to a new sitch; it didn't work out, but I think a lot of times dating doesn't work out. You found out that you can care again for someone; you just have to find the right someone. It sounds like he's dating someone new, but you know that doesn't mean he's married. If you're meant to be, maybe in 6 months or a year or 2 you'll get together, or maybe you'll meet someone better by then.
Glad you have tomorrow night. You need time to recharge. I've really realized that the last year now that I have it. Have you ever looked into meetup.com. They were just talking about that today at lunch....
Just for the record...he was never a band aid.
Getting caught up. Sorry to hear about the roller coaster. I agree with Karen - letting yourself open up to someone again is a big step forward. You will find someone when the time is right. You are a gem.
Thanks G. I am trying to be positive about it and look what I have gained but there are still some tears flowing. I can't know what actually happened because you know now he is in a relationship! Anyhow, I should have just asked what was going on rather than throwing up the wall. Would things have been different I don't know.
I have always been fairly Independent, he even mentioned that. He likes to take care of people. Not that he couldn't take care of me but I am why wait for him to do this or that for me...I can do it myself. I guess I just don't understand the women who don't take care of what they want on their own.
Me either!
Since my XH got back from his deployment, he has needed to take care of other people (as a reaction to his failure to take care of himself? or maybe people there, like the guy in his unit that died?) He needed someone to be co-dependent on him, and that I am not LOL.
Maybe some people prefer to play the damsel in distress and always need someone to save their butts! All I can ask is what attractive about that??
I do know though that I need to be with someone who is just as "strong" as I am. I didn't appreciate doing so much alone, especially since I was married! Might cause some issues but hey if those can be worked out...I could be as good as gold. The real thing is that they would have to want the same thing...which is where a snag might be.
kat
I know that personally(or should I say my romantic life) I am not at my best but overall feeling pretty good. Besides you guys know romance isn't everything. lol
Anyway I have been thinking about this and I am going to look into being a life coach. You guys have helped so much in helping me get my life back on track and I love paying it forward, so why not.
Give me another week or so and I should be back on top.
kat
We all have had to learn how to be resilient.
You will definitely be back on top soon.
I definitely try and do my part by posting to some newcomers here, and share the things I have learned on here, facebook, and IRL.
Haven't we though? Who would have thought that even a year ago I could say I had a romance, even if short lived? Or that I feel pretty good for the most part. Have to put in the time and the work though, it doesn't just happen. Though I suppose after a while one would just come to terms with it.
I think we are all doing one better, working on ourselves. The reason why I think divorce rates for second marriages are so high is the the work wasn't done. Just a quick fix to the pain was sought and was called love. Just have to dig deeper and deal with yourself too. I think we all are healing from being the poor ugly ducklings to find ourselves turning into beautiful swans.(and nothing against ducks, they just aren't as graceful...)
kat
Besides you guys know romance isn't everything. lol
I see romance as just one more pain in the butt. Who needs the stress of "does she like me" "do I like her?" "What did this or that mean" "I better think of something good to do to impress her" "should I pay or should we split it" "Does she really have to wash her hair Saturday night?" "I hope that wasn't her cat I just backed over in her driveway"
Who needs the stress! hanging out at Walmart on Saturday night isn't that bad an alternative...is it?
I am still a terribly hopeful romantic. Aren't there any other Leos around here? I don't have a cat so no problem there. I am always willing to split or take turns on the check. I never use the washing my hair as an excuse(how lame!!) Impress me by saying my name(not any easy one folks) or by remembering something I said in passing.
Walmart...Are you kidding me???? I HATE that place with a passion but on occassion I need to save some cash and force myself in there. So you won't find me there on a Saturday night.
Now I just let out a lot of secrets and lets just hope that they won't kick me out of the sisterhood because of it!
kat
How hard can it be to say "Kat"?
Walmart, Saturday night...be there!
I think I'm in love
Oh if it were only so easy!!
Nope my name is Greek and starts with an X. I like this little nickname I chose for myself because no one ever says how do you pronounce that. lol
Can we pick another store, like Target?
kat
As long as OT approves. If not, it's over!
in the meantime, I'll practise X words:
# Xanadu (n) - an exotic, luxurious place. This word comes from the poem "Kubla Khan" by Samuel T. Coleridge.
# Xanax (n) - a pharmaceutical drug that is used to treat depression and anxiety.
# Xanthic (n) - yellowish in color; having to do with the compound xanthine.
# Xebec: A xebec is a special three-masted sailing ship used in the Mediterranean.
# Xenolith (n) - a fragment of a rock embedded inside another rock.
# Xenon: Scientists call xenon one of the noble gases. It’s odorless, colorless, and found in very small quantities in the Earth’s atmosphere.
# Xenophobia (n) - fear or hatred towards foreigners, foreign countries, or anything foreign. Other related words: xenophobic (adj.) and xenophobe (n)
# Xeric (adj.) - dry or desert like conditions; having very little moisture.
# Xerography: The word for a process to copy documents is xerography.
# Xerox: Xerox is the patented process for copying documents, and the name of a corporation. The word Xerox should never be used as a synonym for photocopying a document.
# Xhosa: Xhosa is the name of the Bantu language, and a name for a member of the Bantu people of South Africa.
# Xylem: Botanists describe the tubes within the stems of woody plants as xylem. The xylem conducts fluids up the plant, while phloem brings the fluids down.
# Xylograph (n) - a wood engraving.
# Xyloid (adj.) - resembling wood; woody.
# Xylophone: A percussion instrument with wood or metal tubes struck with hammers.
# XML:
Let me know when I'm getting close!
You are going to let her tell you who to like??? Geez, you might be losing some brownie points now. lol
kat
LOL!! My name is a variation of number 3. Means blond in Greek. Nope, I am a brunette and Irish at that..go figure. How fun that you are trying.
kat
You are going to let her tell you who to like??? Geez, you might be losing some brownie points now. lol
kat
She can hurt me! Hey, on our first date do you wanna get his and her "I survived OT" T-shirts made? Then it's off to Dairy Queen for a Peanut Buster Parfet (We have DQ in Canada, no Target)...you pay. Sound good, Ms. X?
I love Peanut Buster Parfaits!! Kicking me while I am down and having me pay huh? Well I spring for the ice cream and you can spring for the shirts.. Deal?
Why be scared of her? If you keep this up, there won't be a second date. lol
kat
Why be scared of her? If you keep this up, there won't be a second date. lol
You're right,there's nothing to fear but beer itself. Did I get that right?
As right as the lion needing courage! Canadians and beer what's up with that, eh? So did you figure my name out yet?
kat
I know you as X-tremely captivating...and you can spell parfait, that's all I need to know!
Ok you are earning some of those brownie points back.
kat
Are you sure you have been reading my thread? Maybe you were meaning BobbiJo's.
kat
Did I hear my name?
I absolutely abhor Wal-Mart, and I rarely use the word abhor in conversation.
I used to work there and before the store opened we had to do a cheer and everything. Seriously.
As soon as I got into a non-minimum wage job I stopped going to Wal Mart. OK I go there like twice a year in emergency situations. Just finding a parking spot can take forever and don't get me started on trying to check out! Granted that's bc they are all Super WalMarts now instead of the old regular Wal Mart like it was when I worked there. Who wants to wait in line behind someone with a week's groceries when all you need is some contact solution and dryer sheets?!
So I am a Target junkie. At my lowest post-bomb I probably went there three or four times a week and just walked the aisles looking at stuff... Now I only go every 8-10 days.
Ok back to Kat's thread! You two kids enjoy those peanut buster parfaits. I prefer a cheesecake blizzard if I go to DQ...
Are you sure you have been reading my thread? Maybe you were meaning BobbiJo's.
kat
Yes and I'm absolutely sure you can spell Parfait!
Well then it must be because I don't have a cat for you to run over!
I see a second date in our future.
kat
X-cellent! How about a boat tour of the Baltimore Harbour...in winter or maybe we could just tie chains across the road and wait for those Mennonite buggies, could be fun! I'm open either way!
You guys are cracking me up! The visual I just got from the chains on the road and the buggies is priceless. Thanks!
I shop at Wal-Mart about 1-2 times a month. Hate it, but I get good deals on things I need so it helps my budget. I once considered working there but decided I just couldn't stand the thought!!!!!!
I have to wait until winter for a second date??!! You need to move just a bit faster Mister!! I noticed you following me by the way...nice.
kat
Stalking truly is a romantic gesture, no matter what the law says! Wait till I start calling you constantly and asking where you are and who you're with, you'll love it!
Now, back to your name, here's my list of guesses:
Xandra, Xandy, Xavia, Xena, Xenia, Xenophon, Xenobia, Xylia, Xylina...some of them sound like medications? Will I need a presecription to see you?
Btw, we can do the Mennonite thing in the summer, it's more fun cause they drive faster. Mennonite street racing it's a scourge that just must be stopped!
I gave you a clue, must not have been paying attention! So here it is again...means blond in Greek. Check under girls names though you might want to switch over to a medication after you are done searching. lol
I saw a Mennonite buggy this weekend and that horse was making some time. Oh sad thought because of where I was.
Thanks for helping me take my mind off things. Guess I owe you another brownie.
kat
I gave you a clue, must not have been paying attention! So here it is again...means blond in Greek.
Kat
Hey Xanthe, I never said I was bright, just built!
Give the man a hundred dollars!!! Hear all those bells and whistles going off!! I don't pronounce it correctly or the way most people mispronounce it. Think of the X like a K and the E like an A. Oh, let's just stick with kat. My alter ego is sooo much more fun anyway.
The best thing I can say about my name is that I can tell blond jokes and get away with it.
kat
Oh, you must be a blond!
Oh, you must be a blond!
Getting closer to bald!
Had a bit of a sad moment. While looking at stuff for our Tucson get together, I started thinking about K because I was going to ask him to go.
Guess I could spend a while talking about coulda, woulda, shoulda's. Just taking one step at a time .
kat
So were you a blond? You could just take the plunge and shave it off. So many guys seem to do that now. Or maybe you aren't quite ready with those cold Canadian winters? lol
kat
Had a bit of a sad moment. While looking at stuff for our Tucson get together, I started thinking about K because I was going to ask him to go.
kat
Hey, my name starts with K! I can't come though, they won't let me cross the border...it was all a silly mixup though, I told the border guard that I wanted to get a shot
of the President and they thought I said
"at" the President. These things do happen...especially to blond bald guys!
OMG, I can't read what you write while drinking my pop!!! About choked. So what is it Kevin, Keith, Karl, Klark, Kent?? Am I close?
kat
PS, It shouldn't stand for kat lover...at least not yet.
I did let you know on another post that you aren't my rebound, not if you don't let yourself be.
kat
ROTFLMAO!!! You are great entertainment!
I aim to please!! Don't know about whatitis but he should have that goal in mind too if he wants to get that Peanut Buster parfait!! lol
kat
Guys who have a name which starts with a K kick ass!
[quote=kat727]OMG, I can't read what you write while drinking my pop!!!
I thought you Americans drank "soda", Canadians drink "pop"? I'm so confused now!
Btw,my name is Gaelic for handsome!
Gee Willikers, how could I leave Kerry off the list?? So sorry, especially if that is your name too!
Good ole USA has several dialects. I have always called a soft drink Pop. Most of the east coast says soda and I think around Georga it is coke regardless.(No offense if I am wrong Mish). I grew up here and in LA so don't know where I got Pop. Could be a Midwestern thing...
So where are we at with the name game?
kat
My name is Gaelic for handsome.
Ok, Keefe or Keefer or Kenny or Kenneth or Kevin?? there are several with that meaning. More help please. Oh and K was a Kevin. Just found Kyle too!! Craziness!!
kat
Ok, Keefe or Keefer or Kenny or Kenneth or Kevin?? there are several with that meaning. More help please. Oh and K was a Kevin. Just found Kyle too!! Craziness!!
kat
OK, you got me, my name is Keefer Sutherland.
My name is Gaelic for handsome.
Oh Yeah! My name is Irish and I have my own kingdom...
http://www.killarneylake.com/KINGDOM-OF-kERRY.htm
Does it have an amusement park? You could call it "Divorceland" with a highflying rollercoaster ride! You could have a guy who by just by looking at you can guess the details of your Separation Agreement! How about "the Incredible Disappearing Wife" act...A house of Horrors set up like a court room. No amusement park is complete without a stage show, how about a classic play like "There's No Room For Daddy".This could be a virtual gold mine, Emerald Island could become a tourist haven.
Don't forget the child contortionist show entitled "Kids are Resilient"
Good ole USA has several dialects. I have always called a soft drink Pop. Most of the east coast says soda and I think around Georga it is coke regardless.(No offense if I am wrong Mish). I grew up here and in LA so don't know where I got Pop. Could be a Midwestern thing...
Oh that's funny - yeah I said "pop" when I lived in PA, and yes when I lived in GA, everything was "Coke"... as in:
"Do you want a coke?"
"Yeah..."
"What kind?"
"Orange..."
Ok, Keefe or Keefer or Kenny or Kenneth or Kevin?? there are several with that meaning. More help please. Oh and K was a Kevin. Just found Kyle too!! Craziness!!
kat
OK, you got me, my name is Keefer Sutherland.
Well he spells it differently! Good try though. Kevin was nearly bald so he shaved the rest of it off. Now this really draws attention to the eyes. The windows of the soul.
Out with it! Or I will just call you Kippy!
kat
Yeah, That flavor of coke is a strange thing! Got to love Georgia, though I must confess I would have never made it as a Southern Belle. I would have passed out from the heat!
That and the fact that I am a decendant of the guy that burned through there wouldn't earn me any likability contests!! I remember my Dad passed through there on the way to Florida. After he checked in the guy asked him if he was related to HIM. My dad all laid back say "oh, old Willy T? I sure am." With that the guy points to a tree outside and says "We call that tree over yonder the hanging tree." I don't think he got a wink of sleep that night!
kat
Out with it! Or I will just call you Kippy!
kat [/quote]
Kippy's not bad, although it does sound a bit like peanut butter.
OK, I'll spell it out for you:
K- kind
E- easygoing
N- natural
N- naughty
E- energetic
T- true blue
H- Helluva good lay!
Hey this just could be becoming mutual
kat
Why do I imagine South Park and Kenny getting killed, yet again? I will have to see if I am right when I get home.
I think he had to go by Kenneth to get that "H" in there!!
You are just too clever for your own good Kerry.
kat
Kenny getting killed over and over.
"H" also stands for Hermaphrodite.
In South Park, Eric Cartman's mom is at first said to have been a hermaphrodite, and therefore actually his father and mother, however this was proven wrong in season 14 when they revealed who his real father actually was.
I just got home...poor Kenny. I don't even watch South Park and know that he gets killed over and over. How do I know about all these shows without ever watching them??
I like his definition of the "H" much better.
kat
South Park? Is that a baseball stadium in Chicago?
Hey I don't know that much about it! It is Canadian and Kenny gets killed. What else is there to know? Got those shirts done yet?
kat
This is a fun little name game on FB. this is for my nickname:
Play With Your Name
KAT
1:K - hot
2:A - crazy
3:T - a smile to die for
I will find the one for my real name.
Ok and for the real name:
1:X - never let people tell you what to do
2:A - crazy
3:N - is a very good kisser too!
4:T - a smile to die for
5:H - stick to one
6:E - has gorgeous eyes.
Whatitis; I put in your real name but it didn't seem to match up with what you have. apparently it thinks you are a very good kisser though, so that isn't all bad!
Here's a thought...
Everyone that comes to Tucson will be HOT!
South Park? Is that a baseball stadium in Chicago?
In the movie "South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut", the parents of the boys pressure the USA to wage war on Canada because of some foul mouthed Canadian comedians that corrupted the boys. Satan and his gay lover Saddam Hussien are heavily involved in the story.
Actually Jeff, I think we will all be a little CRAZY too! Did you get any more confirmations?
South Park? Is that a baseball stadium in Chicago?
In the movie "South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut", the parents of the boys pressure the USA to wage war on Canada because of some foul mouthed Canadian comedians that corrupted the boys. Satan and his gay lover Saddam Hussien are heavily involved in the story.
In our history books, we were taught this really happened but that Saddam was bi-sexual. You Americans always change things to fit your world view, don't ya! Long live the Beaver.
Marked and Healed sounds likely.
Wifey was seriously investigating, I will need to contact her.
Valentine was hopeful.
BBJ is in, I think.
I'm not convinced that Mind couldn't be convinced.
And of course Michelle!
So maybe 8? I think small groups make it easier to get to know each other anyway. Just make sure the ac keeps working and I will be your friend for life.
kat
So maybe 8? I think small groups make it easier to get to know each other anyway. Just make sure the ac keeps working and I will be your friend for life.
kat
Gonna do any bible study, that's always a fun ice breaker. You could start with Genesis and each talk about what Adam and Eve must have looked like nude. Anyway, just a suggestion...or you could just drink a lot.
I would like to think that at a resort like these the AC would be working! Probably too well!
It sounds like eight at best. I'll take a room, rather than drive up and back all the time. If enough people come that we need the room, I'll stay at home.
So, the question is three or four rooms, I guess.
It sounds like three for sure, with the fourth one still iffy.
I think Marked may know soon, which could tip things.
So looking forward to it! Three days of being a grown-up sans kids. Really I love them to pieces but even Moms need a break now and then.
I don't drink or should say I rarely drink. Could be fun to see what the topics turn to if several people do drink. I know we just had book club Sunday night and we got way off topic but had sooo much fun.
kat
The advantage of the resort.... everything is there, especially for just a few days!
We could still have trips the the Desert Museum (not Dessert Museum... while that might be fun, it sounds fattening!), I think we could sort that out on the fly.
I imagine a Margarita or two might be consumed.
So you don't think we have to rent a car? It would be nice not too, actually.
kat
I'd hate for people to rent a car for three days, and drive it 100 miles. Even if you had to pay for a shuttle, it would be less than a rental.
If people came in even close to the same time, they could hang at the airport and I would take them up in exchange for good stories, and maybe a margarita at the end of the day.
If we all want to go somewhere Saturday, we could probably rent a van and still save money.
Hugs, Kat.
I keep following how you're doing here and now it seems like everything's taken a strange detour ... like some spin-off from ABC's
The Batchelorette!
Guess that would make you our "Ali"? As in Ali-Kat?
Bad-pun. I'll go shut up for a while. Heh.
Oh I hope not!! I don't even watch it but can't even imagine going from guy to guy. I have said it before...I am a one guy at a time kind of gal. If I ever find the 50 guys that Kerry seems to think are statistically compatible with me here, it is going to take me a while to get through them all.
Thanks for checking in on me. kat
So last night I was catching up on friends and news. Saw that K was on line. I just took a chance and thanked him for the last few months becuase they were a lot of fun. He agreed.
Then I just told him the rest in a non emotional, non threatening way. He stayed on line at least and didn't hurry and get off. It may not have changed anything on his end but I felt better having said my peace.
So that is behind me now and I should be able to move on a tad bit easier.
kat
It is good that you have closure. Onward on to those 50 guys...
Wouldn't it be nice if they would just line up for me? Thanks for your support Kerry.
kat
Wouldn't it be nice if they would just line up for me?
With their clothes on or off?
LOL, Right now, I would say either way!!
Did I really just say that??!! Well I suppose you speak closer to the truth when you don't stop and think about it.
Hey Kat, last night I bought the whole series of Home Improvement at Walmart, your favourite store, for $10 a year! Not bad, great show...so I might be kind of busy for a while but I haven't forgot our DQ date but my spendingmoney has just been depleted for now. Btw, those his and her T-shirts are hard to get made up, the printers are all afraid OT will find out...bunch of chickensh!ts! Who needs T-shirts anyway, you and I know we're made for each other...between commercials anyway but hey, there are no commercials on DVD's!. Wow, 8 years of Home Improvement, my life has taken a huge upward turn!
I wonder if they would have been cheaper on amazon? Of course then you would have to wait on them in the mail. I am still buying the ice cream so all is right in the world.
kat
You can now find me on the same titled thread #30.
kat
Nope, most are $15 each on Amazon.ca, I scored big baby!
I am sooo proud of you!! Catch you on my new thread!
kat
Will we be alone or should I be fully clothed when I drop by?
Oh you are bad!( but fun too) I will let you decide.
kat
OK, you're at #30. This isn't one of those set ups where the woman gives you her new address but never really moves is it?...not that that's ever happened to me!
Nope, I am really over there. Still moving some bits and pieces over, but I am there. Stop on by.