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DejaVu6, devvo, kml, Taz, Traveler
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#2928363 01/12/2022 9:00 PM
by Traveler
Traveler
Previous Thread - Life is Going Well I
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I recall seeing crazy smog in Los Angeles on TV in the early 80s, and hearing tales about it from prior residents. The transformation is amazing. I fully support reducing smog.

I'm just frustrated that 3mo and spending thousands on registration and repairing my sensor, my car still can't pass. The sensor failed to record twice in 500m and its failure mode assumes the worst. The dealer will "make it right" by re-doing the fix, but probably not in the timeline I need, and no refunds for the existing erroneously replaced parts.

I got quotes for trading in my vehicle and replacing it. It's obviously debt and a downpayment the cost of a transmission--but I'd get a low mileage vehicle without issues. Similar monthly payments if I get a normal car. +50% if I get another off-road capable car with extra storage for multi-person camping and backpacking trips. I know my options at least.
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#2928645 Jan 20th a 02:00 AM
by may22
may22
We aren't in the middle of a enormous overnight spike of hospitalizations and deaths from heart attacks or head injuries from bicycle crashes that is overwhelming our health care system. C'mon.

(I don't know why I'm engaging the beast here, mostly just to tell KML and CW that you're not the crazy ones wink )
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#2928521 Jan 17th a 12:53 AM
by Traveler
Traveler
Originally Posted by DonH
Although don't fret, soon you'll be able to order them online for delivery in a week to 10 days
DonH, my rapid test was already delivered in under 30min for $12/test. wink

Originally Posted by DonH
Q: Since when does a single sneeze and a "tingle" trigger obtaining a medical test? And please don't feel singled out CW
Since Omicron is hitting peak numbers and rapid tests became cheap and plentiful. I was in close contact with several people this week, and I'm not taking chances with my kids, XW, and X-MIL when it's so easy to avoid.
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#2928578 Jan 18th a 07:46 PM
by MLCxH
MLCxH
Originally Posted by Traveler
The attitude of most people today seems to be 'get busy living or get busy dying' due to the uncertainty and constantly changing nature of the pandemic.
Getting vax'd and boosted, and wearing a mask vs. taking rapid tests don't prevent you from Stephen King's Shawshankian notion to "Get busy living." [/quote]

I agree with you. However everyone seems to have their own threshold for what prevents them from 'get busy living'. For some, it appears wearing a mask breaches that threshold. Personally, I will continue to wear masks in the near term. If I can help a high risk person whether they are obese, diabetic or have other issues from falling seriously ill with COVID, I am happy to do that.


Originally Posted by Traveler
Fun and taking precautions are compatible, like enjoying sex but wearing condoms with new partners, like climbing a mountain but wearing a harness and safety rope when exposure would mean death and I'm a parent.

Different people will have different definitions of when it is safe to no longer use a condom with a sexual partner. Different people will have different definitions of whether a specific mountain is risky to climb, regardless of whether safety gear smile


Originally Posted by DonH
How or why covid has taken on a life of it's own and become a religion for some, is beyond my understanding. I just know we somehow went from "just a few weeks to flatter the curve" two years ago - TWO FLIPPING YEARS. Can you wrap your heads around that?

5.5 million people have died due to COVID. If additional safety measures had helped reduce the toll by even 10%, that's 550,000 people. For context, the largest city in Wisconsin by population is Milwaukee with a population of about 595,000.
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#2928648 Jan 20th a 07:56 AM
by DejaVu6
DejaVu6
Exactly May. Just like climate change…no one wants to hear the inconvenient truth. I have absolutely no problem wearing a mask and I don’t understand the mentality of people who do. The last thing I would ever want to do is pass this illness onto someone who ended up seriously ill or dead from it. Wearing a mask is the LEAST I can do… it is the least any of us can do.
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#2928466 Jan 15th a 12:52 AM
by Traveler
Traveler
It's happening tomorrow morning! I'm scared and excited.

Scared, because I had to register my car as non-operational for the sale. (My state wants buyers to know it can't pass emissions.) I can only drive 1 day (of my choice) if there are any hitches.

Excited because tomorrow morning I may be driving a new vehicle!! It was tough picking between "Fantastic off-road, so-so fuel economy" vs. "Good off-road, good fuel economy". The latter car felt more practical for road trips.

If all goes well a big stress reduction for $60/mo.
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#2928545 Jan 17th a 11:39 PM
by Ready2Change
Ready2Change
I was dealing with C19 from Dec15-Jan5. Worst symptoms - 4 days of headache/body ache. I have been much sicker from the things my kids brought home from daycare when they were young. 2 antigen tests and 2 PCR. First of each was Positive the second of each 14 days later were Neg. confirmation I could go back in public.

I have no plans to buy anymore antigen tests. Others need them. I am no longer wearing a mask.
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#2928546 Jan 18th a 01:12 AM
by kml
kml
Will you put a mask back on in two months? Because 2 months is the earliest that someone has been documents to catch Covid again after an infection, and although you may have a mild case again, you still would pose a risk of spreading it to others. The main usefullness of masking is to protect other people, including vulnerable people and people who won't know until they get Covid that they are vulnerable.

The really misleading thing about Covid is yes, half the people who get it will get mild disease. (Most of the vaccinated will get mild disease). It's the other half we worry about, and you cannot tell in advance which half you will fall into.
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#2928562 Jan 18th a 03:07 PM
by LH19
LH19
The facts are if you’re vaccinated you are likely ok. If you are unvaccinated and healthy you are likely ok. If you are unvaccinated and not healthy you may be SOL. Either way you are likely to get it and spread it. Act in accordance to what you feel comfortable with moving forward.
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#2928564 Jan 18th a 03:30 PM
by MLCxH
MLCxH
Originally Posted by kml
While we all would like it to mutate to become a mild illness, it’s not an automatic trend, nor is it a direct line. It’s equally likely that the next variant will be equally deadly but even more able to get around prior immunity.

Exactly. A year ago you had a very good chance of not testing positive for COVID if you were vaccinated. With Omicron, the virus has mutated to where you can still get COVID but symptoms are likely to be relatively milder if vaccinated. How do we know it won't mutate to something that is fatal for even the vaccinated?

Originally Posted by LH19
The facts are if you’re vaccinated you are likely ok.
This may be true today but no one knows what the next variant will be like.

I feel that people are tired and have just given up. The attitude of most people today seems to be 'get busy living or get busy dying' due to the uncertainty and constantly changing nature of the pandemic. Two years is a relatively long time, and I honestly don't feel I can judge anyone for doing their own thing now.
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#2928571 Jan 18th a 06:37 PM
by DonH
DonH
Originally Posted by Ready2Change
I have no plans to buy anymore antigen tests. Others need them. I am no longer wearing a mask.

Originally Posted by Ginger1
I’m vaxxed X3. I’m kind of done. I’m not wearing a mask everywhere anymore. I’m personally not fearing it.

Originally Posted by LH19
I just don’t want anymore lock downs or border closings. It doesn’t [work]. Omicron can’t be stopped.

Well halleluiah, there may still be hope. And you guys are not alone - though many for some reason are still afraid to speak against the narrative of the now clear minority. Isn't that often the way. Yes, things have changed, yes people are tired of it, but also they see reality with their own eyes. The super majority - ie above 97% of people who got covid now speak as Ready2Change does: "I have been much sicker from the things my kids brought home from daycare when they were young." We've somehow taken 1% of those who get infected and fractions of a percent of the public and made them the majority.

How or why covid has taken on a life of it's own and become a religion for some, is beyond my understanding. I just know we somehow went from "just a few weeks to flatter the curve" two years ago - TWO FLIPPING YEARS. Can you wrap your heads around that? To people, even more and more of my currently working healthcare friends who see a disproportionate number of really sick covid patients compared to those not working in such settings, are speaking as Ginger now is: "I'm personally not fearing it." Me too - for two years now.

Originally Posted by LH19
He lives in Wisconsin in the dead of winter. Of course he’s angry!

And I've lived here all my life - by choice - figure that one out. smile

Originally Posted by kml
Funny how people of your political persuasion don't want people to rely on government to save them - until they want government to save them?


I don't need government for most things. I can make most life decisions by myself. I want them OUT of my life other than to do things that I cannot do by myself or for myself. I DON'T need government to decide my healthcare - I can handle that just fine on my own. I DO need them to build roads, I can't do that. I DON'T need government to regulate how much soda I drink or how I separate my garbage. I DO need government to protect me from foreign and domestic enemies. There are far more things I DON'T need from government than those I do. I've yet to encounter brilliant people within government. It's where those who can't earn and keep a legitimate job on their own go to work. Even the brilliant people I do know who got recruited into a government position (mostly within healthcare) just about lost their minds and ran away kicking and screaming after a short time of seeing how government runs. As probably the best president during my lifetime stated: GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEMS. GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!!!

Originally Posted by kml
Don, how are you doing? You seem to be angry at everything these days. Are you taking care of yourself? Playing music? Watching comedies? Talking with friends? Taking your vitamin D? Please be well.

Thank you for asking. I'm doing about as well as can be expected since our lives got turned upside down two years ago. Sadly, just about everything I can compare today to two or three years ago is far, far worse - other than perhaps the stock market. Otherwise inflation is at a 40 year record high, I'm paying way more for gas, our lives have been upended, no one wants to work so businesses can't provide goods and services, the supply chain is totally broken, people are pouring across a now open southern boarder, half the county hates the other half so much they won't even go on a coffee date with them. People are moving out of large cities like NY, Chicago, San Francisco, for other states in droves. Just about NONE of these things were in play a few years ago. Oh, but hey, at least we don't have to put up with those darn nasty tweets everyday.

Originally Posted by kml
vitamin D deficiency is associated with seasonal depression.


I'm not depressed. I'm PISSED! I want my life back and all of this nonsense to end. I won't take up anymore space on Traveler's thread for something that really belongs on my own thread. Wow, look CW, your thread is where everyone now hangs out! smile But I may more fully answer or explain this on my own thread.

People have so become sheep and follow the heard. I'm just trying to do my part to get them to re-think things and perhaps go a different direction - or create their own heard maybe. We've been so badly lied to and manipulated and it needs to stop.
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#2928572 Jan 18th a 06:44 PM
by Traveler
Traveler
Originally Posted by MLCxH
The attitude of most people today seems to be 'get busy living or get busy dying' due to the uncertainty and constantly changing nature of the pandemic.
Getting vax'd and boosted, and wearing a mask vs. taking rapid tests don't prevent you from Stephen King's Shawshankian notion to "Get busy living." This week I had a lady over and we ate good food and shared a bottle of wine on my patio, I went cycling with two of my mates and wore masks only when we stopped and were in closer proximity, and I'm going on a road trip with friends next weekend where we'll take a rapid test before carpooling together. I want to have fun. I also don't want to kill anyone. Fun and taking precautions are compatible, like enjoying sex but wearing condoms with new partners, like climbing a mountain but wearing a harness and safety rope when exposure would mean death and I'm a parent.
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#2928581 Jan 18th a 07:59 PM
by MLCxH
MLCxH
Originally Posted by LH19
Think of how many people would be saved if we removed cigarettes and alcohol from the store shelves.

Cigarettes and alcohol are regulated by the government. There is even a dedicated agency called the ATF that focuses on alcohol and tobacco.

Are you saying we need more regulations from the government on COVID? smile
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#2928594 Jan 18th a 10:18 PM
by kml
kml
So we should not make any effort to protect the stupid 30% who won't get vaccinated because they read misinformation on the internet? As upset as I am about the nonsense they are being fed (No! It can't change your DNA! It won't make you sterile!) I still think it's an easy enough thing to wear a mask so that they don't die on a ventilator, begging for the vaccine after it's too late. And keeping them out of the ICU also helps our incredibly overworked medical staff.

Honestly, where is the human decency people??? Wear a mask and save lives. Don't be selfish and think "I won't get really sick if I get it so I don't care about protecting anyone else in society - it's more important that other people can see my teeth!"
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#2928675 Jan 20th a 06:52 PM
by MLCxH
MLCxH
Originally Posted by kml
Don - the science is clear that masks help reduce transmission. The fact that politically, people like you pressure governments to make decisions based on politics and not the science does not invalidate the science.

Masks reduce the number of droplets released into the air by an infected person and hence directly reduce the probability of infecting others. Is it possible a masked person can infect others? Absolutely, but the probability is significantly lower than if they were unmasked.

The minute you touch something after washing your hands, germs get onto your hands again. Does that mean we stop washing our hands after using the toilet? A lot of these decisions are based on statistics and reducing the probability of an event happening. The same is true with masks. This is basic common sense and the arguments against masking are just silly.
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#2928676 Jan 20th a 07:00 PM
by MLCxH
MLCxH
I wonder how the anti maskers would feel if restaurants and food courts stopped enforcing the "employees must wash hands after using the toilet" and relied on the personal responsibility of the workers? If an anti masker was working in a remote site and a cafeteria where many workers do not wash their hands was the only option for food, I wonder if that person would just eat that food or starve?
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