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RR- try a doing a 270- LOL!part way between 180 and 360. That would be kinda mixing it up. Anyways Stay well- Stay Positive!


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So, I guess nobody remembers reading MWD expanding on mixing up Limbo?

I'm looking to read about it.


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So, just shipped D19 back to college. D15 is at a festival concert with friends and will spend the night out and concert tomorrow. W and I are empty nesting it. The only plan is to grill dinner. This could get interesting. No expectations.


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Remember..... detached. Water off a duck's back.


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There has been a "receptive" vibe here lately. At least that is my take. W is showing all signs of love except physical affection.
My job is to not screw it up and remove expectation.


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8/2013 discovered EA, W maintained contact with OM
until 10/14
7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
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RR- Slow and steady- marathon not a sprint. Be the lighthouse. Stay Well!


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I'm 5 years into this. When does it go from sprint to marathon?

Well, I responded well. I think. Nothing in the cards. I feel that the W was feeling some pressure when I asked her what she had planned after church. When she said laundry. I knew to back off. I did and all is good.


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7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
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Patience RR...good.


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A bit of introspection.

It has come to my attention recently that W has said a few things that have stuck with me. What is curious to me is that at the time I didn't think much about it but over time these items have stuck in my mind. I'm not trying to mind read as much as I'm trying to understand the significance to me.

The first one I did acknowledge but has turned out to have a much more profound effect than I first thought. While explaining a potential business endeavor, my W said supporting "I think you should do it. Nobody knows it better than you and you are great at it."
So I immediately thanked her for the kind words of support. I also thought "I'll bet you do so you can take half the money on your way out the door" I didn't express these thoughts at all. In fact, I struggled with the impulsive thought. I also more importantly realized that since the recession 10 years ago, I have not heard words of encouragement like this from her. Now I was aware that I had not heard these things and I acknowledged that I appreciated the fact that W said it. But this has stuck with me how much I didn't expect it, and how much I had missed it.

The next thing that I am pretty sure I heard but I'm not 100% sure is, one time during one of my dialogs I mentioned that I did still love W. I know I'm not supposed to say that. I didn't say it in a way where there was any expectation of reciprocation, just kind of matter-of-fact. Well if my memory serves me W did reciprocate, and because I had no expectation and she didn't stop me, I breezed right past it. It caught me off guard. (You see, I'm detached)
Now the significance is that in the past, pre DB, after BD, I said this with expectation and sometimes I got a forced reciprocation and sometimes I got nothing. Either way, it was forced and not very genuine. At the time I really didn't care because I was hurting and needed to hear it.

This time it, if it really happened, it was genuine. W was never one to say it first. Even when she did it was "Love you too" kind of thing. IDK, some childhood thing probably.

Those of you that have read this are probably thinking, so what. I get it. But if you understood that I am a l"ive in the moment and plan for the future" kind of guy, you might understand the significance of me contemplating somethings that were said in the past. In fact, people ask me about my weekend and I am so caught up in the upcoming week that I often struggle to remember what I did over the past weekend.

I don't know what it all means, but it is odd all the same. I guess good changes are happening. I still have moments when I feel angry or suspicious and feel like blowing things up. The difference is I realize that they are feelings that may very well change and this helps.


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D15, D19
8/2013 discovered EA, W maintained contact with OM
until 10/14
7/2/17 W said she wanted S, 7/25/17 moved out of MBR
12/17 W says moving out 5/18, W still in home.

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Good post RR- baby steps very mindful in your interactions and reflections. - keep it steady and stay positive.


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BD 10/31/17
separate rooms 02/08/18
wife moved out 05/17/18

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