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Looking for some advice on the depression/ withdrawal stage, my H has been in Mlc since 2014, we have had the denial, anger and replay stages.

July 2016 he started to become very depressed but was still in an emotional relationship with ow, it was then the db came. I remained calm and carried on with my life, h seemed to calm down a little, I do not believe he is in contact with ow now.

During replay he remained loving, but since the depression withdrawal stage he has become unloving, he no longer wants any physical or emotional contact.

February 2017 came and he became very angry again and said he was done and wanted a divorce, again I stayed calm and carried on with my life. he is still living in the house, but has now become very withdrawn, i have spoken to him about this and he says he doesn't know what he wants one day to another, if I get close he puts a wall up and says he needs space to get well.
We are pleasant to one another, but there is no emotional relationship at present.
At times he talks about the future and family holidays etc which is encouraging,

How long does this stage last? What should I be doing? And is he starting to come out of the tunnel?

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Welcome to the board

Sorry you are here but you will meet some wonderful people here and get some great advice.

The first thing you should do is be sure to read the Divorce Remedy (DR) book by MWD
http://www.mcssl.com/store/mwdtc2014/
http://divorcebusting.com/sample_book_chapters.htm

and Michele's articles
http://www.divorcebusting.com/articles.htm

You may be on moderation now, post in small frequent replies and stay on this thread until you reach 100 posts
(for your thread, you can also post on other peoples threads to give support).
Especially on this Newcomers forum, where the posting activity is very active,
and your posts can quickly fall to the bottom of the page or even several pages down.
Keep journaling and asking questions - people will come!
Most important - POST!

Get out and Get a Life (GAL).

DETACH.


Believe none of what he or she says and half of what he/she does.

Have NO EXPECTATIONS.

Take care of yourself, breathe, eat, sleep, exercise.

Take the parts of this advice that you need and don't worry if I have repeated something that you have already done.

Here are a few links to threads that will help you immensely:

I would start with Sandi's Rules
A list of dos and don'ts for the LBS (left behind spouse)
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2553072#Post2553072

Going Dark
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=50956#Post5095

Detachment thread
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2538414#Post2538414

Validation Cheat Sheet: Techniques and tips on how to validate (showing your walk away spouse (WAS) that you recognize and accept his or her opinions as valid, even if you do not agree with them)
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2457566#Post2457566

Boundaries Cheat Sheet
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2536096#Post2536096

Abbreviations
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2553153#Post2553153

For Newcomer LBH with a Wayward Wife by sandi2
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2545554#Post2545554

Resource thread
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubb...224#Post2578224

Stages of the LBS
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1964990&page=1

Validation
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=191764#Post191764

Pursuit and Distance
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2483574#Post2483574

The Lighthouse Story
http://www.divorcebusting.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2484619#Post2484619

Your H or W is giving you a GIFT.
THE GIFT OF TIME.
USE it wisely.

Knowledge is Power - Sir Francis Bacon


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Originally Posted By: Roo
How long does this stage last?
What should I be doing?
And is he starting to come out of the tunnel?

Stage watching is not a great idea.
If and only if he really has left REPLAY/Escape and Avoid then he may be in withdrawal.

What should you do? - DETACH, continue to give him space and let him work out what he is doing on his own.

Last question, TIME will tell, there is no way any of us have enough information to really know.
What are you going to do if he is stuck in there?


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Roo,

How long has the OW been around?

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I believe OW was around from April 2015- June 2016, I do not believe it was a physical affair.
I have detached and have given him space, the only time I have tried to talk to him is when he has been low and tearful and withdrawn.

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Originally Posted By: Roo
I have detached and have given him space, the only time I have tried to talk to him is when he has been low and tearful and withdrawn.

Keep doing that.

You didn't break him and you can not fix him.

He will either come out of this or he won't.
Best to not be part of it IMHO.


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Thanks guys it's like walking on eggshells at the moment,
I'm just taking it day by day,
Some days are good and I can see a glimmer of the man I married, other days I see an angry man, other days a sad man that looks like he can't cope.

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Originally Posted By: Roo
Some days are good and I can see a glimmer of the man I married, other days I see an angry man, other days a sad man that looks like he can't cope.


Roo,

In the case of affective disorders, sometimes you can use behavioral shaping. On bad days you can hit him on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper and scold him. On good days, you can give him some peanut butter or a small piece of cheese and praise him.

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I often feel like hitting him with a newspaper 😂
Is it possible for the replay, depression and withdrawal stage to run together?
Also it's our 22nd wedding anniversary next weekend should I ignore the day?

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Originally Posted By: Roo
Is it possible for the replay, depression and withdrawal stage to run together?

Absolutely, happens all the time.

Depression is part of entire crisis so separating it from different stages is not a straight forward thing to do,

Best to look at stages after they have been completed.

I was convinced I had seen every stage - and that was 7 years ago.

Stage watching is a waste of time.


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