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Thank you all for your input, I appreciate that I can put it out there and get responses back so quickly.

WRT college... If I suggested that he wasn't going to be able to pay for college he would get angry and defensive. The house is bought. He's already made decisions that won't permit him to plan for college saving. I have to let it play out. I've taken every legal step I can to get him to agree to share the cost but the truth is he has no legal obligation to provide for the kids after they're 18 and I've done everything I can in that line for the moment.

WRT the house/chores... I'm getting the help I can and engaging the kids to the extent I'm able. Probably there's more I can do but part of the challenge is getting them up to speed. The boys in particular need to be very heavily monitored to make them do anything like a reasonably thorough job. D13's worst trigger is when the kitchen gets messy. Her ugliness really comes out when it's not in good order and I can choose to either try to parent the meanness & upset out of her (time & energy suck) or ignore it -- which means walking away from whatever activity I was engaged with, thus losing either the recuperative effect of relaxing or losing the efficiency of, say, catching up with whatever chore I was engaged in. She's positively abusive when the kitchen is even slightly piled up.

I have gotten recommendations for new therapists and I'm going to start her and me both as soon as I can make the phone calls. I can't live like this.

WRT the job... I like it and under normal circumstances I would be ok with the learning curve, etc., but there is ENORMOUS pressure to make a fast start on building the business and I'm not meeting any of the metrics. When I turn to friends and family members for help I get stupid suggestions like "start a blog" rather than the actual help I'm asking for. I feel alone, and I feel the weight of responsibility and I'm so twisted up with the emotions of feeling inadequate and anxious about catching up with the long-term goals, being the sane parent, tending to my own needs, and mourning what I'm losing by taking full responsibility for my family, that it's inhibiting my ability to be effective.

So, no pressure but I've got to sort that out asap or the whole house of cards comes down.

WRT to hating him... I'm trying. I had gotten fairly ok with how things were but once again I find myself so overwhelmed with my responsibilities that I hate him for putting me in this position. Especially because I haven't figured out how to fit exercise into my new life and I'm feeling it. My opportunities to relax only occur when I'm collapsing in exhaustion and I'm having trouble sleeping. Seeing him holed up all by himself in his mansion, or worse, hearing from D13's friends' parents how awesome the new place is, feeds that beast. Then I look around my house and see how little I've done to pretty it up (but lots of maintenance stuff, and lots more to go) and my fury rises.

He's not a worthwhile person and I wouldn't even want to have dinner with him, let alone be married to him again. We clearly don't share ANY of the same values. So some of my anger is at myself for having chosen my husband so carelessly. People have said to me "people change," in defense of my choosing to marry him. But hindsight is 20/20 and I see now the red flags that were screaming at me that he wasn't to be trusted. I'm so frustrated with getting myself into this position.

The transitions in the last two years have been coming hard and fast. I've lived through 4-5 "Top Five" stressors in the last two years, in addition to trying to help the kids through them, and I've done it largely alone. I'm really worried I'm going to crumble if I don't make big healthy changes.

On the other hand, the Facebook "memories" app posted a picture that reminded me that the two year anniversary of him moving out recently passed. When I think how far I've come in two years, I am very, very grateful. I knowing get through this. I'm just not sure how.

***** *****. *****

In other news, I was talking to my New Guy today about my goals as a parent and some of the challenges I see in creating opportunities to do activities with the kids that make it possible to meet them. He stepped right up and suggested an activity that's way beyond my physical ability... And he offered to help make it happen. It's something I really want and the kids (especially D13) really want and it is in line with some values and interests that NG and I share.

We've been seeing one another five months now and he's made it clear that this is serious for him. Some days it feels serious for me and some days I have fears and reservations. The more I get to know him, though, the more I feel like I have something to offer him, and he has plenty to offer me. We're complementary rather than similar. I feel good at the end of a day spent with him. He's not flashy AT ALL, and occasionally it bugs me, but I haven't yet felt like we've done the same things twice. He is absolutely not without flaws... But neither am I.

I am reserving judgment, watching carefully, and trying to be patient. I'm also tired, a little sad that there are so many goals I won't meet, and afraid I'll fail at the ones I've committed to.

My inner Wonder Woman reminds me that at least I'm trying to rise to the occasion, and however it eventually plays out, I have chosen to take action on my & the kids' own behalf. I haven't been a victim of my circumstances, and if I achieve half of what I'm aiming for it will still be something to be proud of.

"All shall be well, and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well.”


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Good to hear that New Guy is stepping out to the plate!


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I can relate to the burnout, I am completely there right now. managing everything on your own is no simple feat. Especially when you have goals you want to meet. You do need to take some pressure off you to be wonderwoman.

Professionally, I am not doing what my passion is. I am an RN and my passion was always working with patients. It was often draining, but more so rewarding. I changed jobs a few times to be there for my daughter. I work at a desk, not with patients, I audit bills for a hospital system. Boring. But on the flip side, it pays me super well, has no stress and is very family friendly. I take what I can get.

Exercise. I had a serious discussion with my IC regarding this. It has always been my outlet, and got me through my divorce without going to the looney bin. I am currently working full time, back in school, managing my daugther and her activities full time without help and trying to keep my house together. My breakup with my exBF has been very very difficult for me, and I knew I had to get back into my exercise routine to manage my stress. So, I sacrificed. I am mostly exhausted, sleeping in my car on lunch breaks on Fridays, but for me, I need it to not have nervous breakdown. I fit it into my insane schedule somehow, my daughter does have to be there, but it's for the best for both of us, so Mommy doesn't lose her sh!t.

You have the right attitude. I have always promised myself I would not become victim of my circumstance. I haven't so far, although I sink into the self-pity pool everynow and then when I am overly exhausted, I just pick myself up and do what I got to do. I'm glad your guy. Being complimentary to eachother is a great thing. Your offers don't have to be perfectly equal to eachother. And I would bet he feels like you have tons to offer him.

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MB, stopping by to give you a hug.

I don't have any advice for you, college is not something I have to worry about for my kids, Mr. P and I saw eye to eye on this one and set aside what we needed to in the settlement. I know I'm lucky on this. But I also know that the fact that you are thinking about it now is of tremendous benefit, there's a little time to put some sort of plan in place, even if that plan involves financial aid and/or loans. In my area there are college planners who will give a free seminar and/or consultation, this might be the time to look someone up in your area.

Take care of yourself, sweetie. (((MB)))



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My XMIL sent me a check for my birthday with a note saying she was proud of me for "doing so well in my new life."

I need to write her a thank you note. She means kindly. But I want to send the gift back and ask her to stop sending me stuff. I can't bring myself to have any positive feelings about her. Our relationship was often strained before the split and there is a tiny tinge of what feels like gloating in her continuing to reach out to me.

That is not likely the case. I had been working really hard on improving my relationship with her the last few years and she had come to rely on me for some things that were really important to her. But I can't muster good feelings about her.

I guess this is just part of what goes on the list of things to bring to the therapist when I start. In the meantime, the note doesn't have to be a masterpiece of gratitude. Just an acknowledgement is sufficient, right?


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I agree that a simple acknowledgement and thank you would do.


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Hey Maybell,

Just checking in. I get those feelings, too. It's hard to control the urge to shout a big F-U to his friends and family.

But what good would that do, really? Doesn't seem wise to burn that bridge. She means kindly, she is reaching out to you in a way that feels right to her. To read it as gloating seems like you are putting a certain (negative) spin on it. Could it be possible that she feels terrible about what happened, and this is her way of showing you some support and empathy? Would it do you any harm to perceive it that way?

Say thank you graciously and stfu about the rest of it. If it makes you feel better for accepting the gift, spend the $ on your kids, or make a donation to a cause you care about. Personally, I'd spend it on something consumable -- a movie, a meal, a massage -- something that I'd enjoy but wouldn't leave me with a "thing" to have as a reminder.

hang in there MB.


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I'm starting to think I may be having a problem with depression. I've reached out to a therapist I got a recommendation for and hope to go in the next week.


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That's good news Maybell - I'm glad you're reaching out for help IRL.


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I get the screaming fu, it would be so satisfying, to finally tell them all go to hell.

I don't, instead I go out of my way to be nice, even to some who just don't deserve it. I won't let there crap drag me down other than the odd stew...


Where I think wow, wouldn't it be nice to "xyz insert revenge thought here" then sigh and let it float off.

I'm having a problem with a dishonest work mate making false claims. She has been caught out fibbing and stealing every single day.... And yet she is given more positive reinforcement, shrugs I have no idea why?...

Then another of xh2 associated side kicks. He hasn't been able to look me in the face going to great lengths to avoid me, so today I made sure I gave a very casual greeting I think he wanted the ground to swallow him up.... Good karma and power to me! grin


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