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I know for me, My MIL and SIL both diagnosed Bipolar, both fight depression, I only assumed for some time that was what my W was going through. She had some health issues and opt'd to stay away from western medicine and went holistic. At the time I was more about ... "whatever works and makes you better" ... however this change really seemed to alter her brain chemical balance, what seemed like Bi-Polar and Depression tendencies lead me here learning about MLC. I am not sure if its one or the other, but my gut is there is a mixture of both.


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Well my mother was/is bipolar.

She left my father 24 years ago and that did not cure her of being bipolar(diagnosed now for close to 60 years).

So I think the question is did the MLC come out of the blue or was it here for their whole life and MLC made it worse.

Hard to diagnose the degrees of being crazy that is for sure.

Personally I would rather not have to deal with it at all.


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Ellie! Would you include neurological lymes in this subset? Not that my ex's medical problems are my concern anymore. Just wondering smile


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Hi Beatrice,
I will throw you off completely here by first saying that I am 3 months from having my Masters in Psychology. I know very well what is and is not a mental illness.

I want to make sure you understand my point however, my problem is that we are too quick to label things as psychological problems before we have done any testing or evaluating and instead make excuses for poor choices.

I do believe that some of these folks have deep rooted psychological issues, but let's not blanket WAS and MLCers as all having them and when an IC labels someone with a disorder let's not take it as gospel.

I speak very dismissively about people in the field because i see what is being turned out these days and some of the counselors out there today are worthless and self serving. A good IC or Psychologist is in it to help the individual and not to keep themselves working. There is too much of that going on today in the field.


I hope that makes sense.

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And how do you know what my qualifications are? grin

You make sense, and are of course, entitled to your opinions. Others, including myself may disagree with you, on the basis of their experience. I will not however trivialise what you are saying

I believe there are good therapists, and not so good ones, as in all fields. And there is also the need for good research and evaluation of both conditions and the effectiveness of different treatments. I favour an approach that takes in the latest findings in neuroscience.

Since kml politely indicated that this thread is not about psychology, but actual brain disease, perhaps this is not the place to pursue the discussion. I have already apologised to her once!!

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Week the. I guess I don't have evidence that my h has any organise brain diseases but some thing sure has/had been going on. Giving his totaly lies time will tell if the man sinks into demure.

given his whole elaborate lies I doubt he even knows the truth, which is why the man lies so effectively.

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Linda, yes I was thinking about your husband's Lyme disease. That definitely counts. (Guess the Russian fermented oatmeal hasn't cured him yet, huh? )

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Linda, yes I was thinking about your husband's Lyme disease. That definitely counts. (Guess the Russian fermented oatmeal hasn't cured him yet, huh? )


Hahaha… The fermented oatmeal is probably the thing of the past by now… I bet there are some new “treatments” over there…


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Sometimes, I think this question if one of those..."What came first? The chicken or the egg?"

In our case, Smokey began abusing drugs when he was 12 to avoid some severe issues at home and some severe (what I would consider organic) anxiety/depression that runs through his family.

It's all such a tangled web. Parent that suffer from severe depression, alcoholism, anxiety, other mental illness, etc...lead to children who can't cope well...who develop crazy coping skills themselves...Using marijuana consistently between the ages of 12 and 48...well, what does that do to your brain? Add a fair amount of alcohol abuse...

Smokey's father left Smokey and his mom when Smokey was only 2. He found he was adopted by his step-father (someone he believed until that point to be his biological father) when he was 12...he started using drugs to ease the pain at 12...His biological father simply quit his son's life. Went MIA as Smokey grew up 15 minutes away.

Our daughters have now experienced the same trauma of having a parent abandon them.

...and the beat goes on...


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