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Originally Posted By: Train
This, in other words, is how my H responds to "boundaries."



He can do that, but a family court judge isn't going to look very kindly on him if his "calculations" are to short-change his own children. Courts are abundantly clear when it comes to child support -- IT'S NOT THE KIDS' FAULT, and parents are to do whatever they need to do to abide by the contribution amounts.

I'll be anxious to hear what your attorney says. I would respond "thank you for your clarity" or some such.


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This, to H, represents both spousal AND child support. He essentially "talked to people" and decided what he'd be willing to pay - which is $700/month less than what my L proposed - and H adjusted his direct-deposit accordingly.

My L worked the formulas. Child support is pretty easy.

Alimony is a crap shoot, but we pitched what we believe the courts might grant.


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Yes. I just responded: "Okay. Thanks."

I'm just trying to keep a level head right now.

The good news is: financial support was his last card to play. It's done now. HE'S done now.

Now, I'll build MY case.


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I don't know if I'm fooling myself or if my mind is just "protecting" me. I don't know if I've finally just had enough. I don't know if this is just a fleeting feeling and maybe a stage that a LBS goes through. But the fact is, I don't want my H right now. I wouldn't want him even if I could have him. And if I'm feeling this way right now, I have to ask myself if I have it in me to fight - over years - for our M and our family. For today, at least, I just don't think he's worth fighting for.

Good questions. I think every LBS goes through this. I'll ramble through some of my thinking ... you may find it helpful, you may think I'm all wet.

Certainly a big part of it is a defense mechanism.
I know I don't want my W the way she is now. I mean, what kind of weak person runs away from M problems to an OM instead of confronting them? Who wants to be lied to and disrespected daily? We then highlight all of their shortcomings to justify our decision to not want them.

But then, I realize that I contributed to the conditions that caused her to break away from M as a last resort. And a lot of her behavior now is just snowball effect stuff of an OM addict who made a bad decision in a moment of weakness. And they highlight all of our shortcomings to justify their decisions to not want us, and throw that in our face in the ugliest way.

So there's a dangerous parallelism of justifications that can easily lead to D.

But I believe that my W could not have truly lost all her good qualities. This has to be a veneer. The question then is, will the veneer crack before we're too far down the road of not caring. And if it cracks, are you willing to let it go as just the snowball manifestations of an underlying problem that might be able to be resolved. And if it cracks, are the underlying qualities that you fell in love with still there? Can I confront the possibility that my W may truly not love me any more, and that this really is the new her? Do I owe it to myself to find out? Do I owe it to her or the kids to stand through this?

And while I know that I could now throw this all away and move on and be happy, (getting to that point is a goal for any LBS), the question then is do I go for the stretch goal of working to save this R, because it's the one that has my kids in it, and now that I know I can take care of me, can I really consider which way would they be better off.

And if you're still changing your thinking on all of this from day to day, I'd suggest it's still emotionally based, and you owe it another day.

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Thank you so much for this perspective. I'm going to chew on it once I've breathed my way through my H's jerk-offedness this morning.

Because right now, all I want to do is choke him out.

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Train,
Do you have a smartphone? Check out the MB app- they have a daily radio show that you might enjoy. Helped me TONS. Would listen each day in my car.
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Originally Posted By: Train
This, to H, represents both spousal AND child support. He essentially "talked to people" and decided what he'd be willing to pay - which is $700/month less than what my L proposed - and H adjusted his direct-deposit accordingly.

My L worked the formulas. Child support is pretty easy.

Alimony is a crap shoot, but we pitched what we believe the courts might grant.


OK, thanks for clarifying.


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HS - I will definitely check that out ... thank you!

Starsky, H essentially is now paying me $1,300 less, every two weeks, than what he has been paying. That's my entire freaking mortgage ... and some change! Good thing I had already been debating not paying it. That's the benefit of planning ahead, for just the kids and me, I suppose.


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HS,

MB? What's it stand for? I'm looking now ...


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Is the mortgage note in both of your names? How about the deed?


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