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jp, You stated you are not afraid of getting hurt. Are you sure? I am wondering if your self-sabotaging is an instinct for protecting yourself against getting hurt. You also feel the need to be in control. Do you feel that what you have is too good to last, and feel it will fail, so your self-sabotaging in order to remain in control?


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Originally Posted By: chasingpavements
jp, You stated you are not afraid of getting hurt. Are you sure? I am wondering if your self-sabotaging is an instinct for protecting yourself against getting hurt. You also feel the need to be in control. Do you feel that what you have is too good to last, and feel it will fail, so your self-sabotaging in order to remain in control? I do think you hot the nail on the head there


Originally Posted By: jp787
What are you afraid of? What am I not afraid of… Success, getting hurt, work.



Good grief! I need to read what I write


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Jp, what's been going on the last couple of weeks? Are you still questioning things? Still withdrawn? Are things going well?


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LTH, Thanks for asking.

A truth, I am not ready. I have not done my work.

That said I am not backing out, but finding that I missed a great opportunity to work on myself when I was alone, at least from W.

Moving forward on an ice covered hill.

I am quite certain I have found the voice I need to silence or change. "I am not good enough"


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Originally Posted By: jp787
I missed a great opportunity to work on myself when I was alone, at least from W.



I don't know why some of you didn't tell me to work on myself while my W was gone!

^^That is humor, no bricks please smile


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Hmmm. So, you are not ready and didnt do the work?

What does that mean moving forward? I'm thinking you need to get to gettin for real, J.

I am loving that you have found the voice to silence those feelings. Good on you.

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jp, I was going to send you something in the alt world but you're no longer there!

You're a difficult man to keep track of.

We are all works in progress.


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Moving forward with working on me. Taking those heavy steps I have been so afraid to take.

Becoming something I have never been or don't remember being. It feel all so foreign and scary.

I feel like I am blindfolded and being asked to walk and not stop.


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Originally Posted By: jp787
Moving forward with working on me. Taking those heavy steps I have been so afraid to take.

Becoming something I have never been or don't remember being. It feel all so foreign and scary.

I feel like I am blindfolded and being asked to walk and not stop...


...in an endless field of nothing but soft grass in all directions, with the sun shining down on you and a light breeze on your face.

You got this!

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I ran across this and thought I would share.

10 Things That Have Made All The Difference in our marriage


1. Weekly Questions: For the past five years Tim and I have been asking each other the same five questions every Sunday night. These questions have made the biggest difference in how we love and serve one another throughout the week. If you're going to incorporate one of these 10 things into your marriage, we hope it's this one.

2. A Small Metal Box: After reading this story, Tim and I made a pact that each time we made love we would put a dollar in a special metal box and save it for our 50th anniversary trip to Hawaii. This has surprisingly been a great way for us to creatively pursue intimacy with one another over the years. Our only advice would be to not count the money in your box. Focus on quality, not quantity.

3. Traveling Journal: There is a journal we share that's filled with words that would make you blush. We take turns writing in it, always hiding it for the other to find in an unexpected place. It's been found duct taped to our shower, in suitcases when traveling, even in the refrigerator behind the Cool Whip. (Pretty sure Husband was trying to tell me something). Overall, this has been a great way for us to verbally affirm and encourage one another.

4. We (try and) Conflict Well: Conflict is inevitable in relationships, but we believe it exists to make us better, not bitter. We try and keep short accounts with one other by sharing our disappointments and hurt feelings. This isn't always easy but it's necessary in maintaining marital oneness. From experience we know there's nothing more damaging to our relationship than harbored bitterness.

5. We Play Together: Husband and I have chosen to be active together. Whether it's tossing the Frisbee, flying our kite, going on walks, participating in adventure races, reading bedtime stories, or building forts in our living room, playing together has helped us find our inner child. It has also reminded me that being active together can be romantic. After all, deep down I know Husband wants me to be his sidekick when it comes to doing "guy things" with him. Realizing this has been critical in helping us stay connected both physically and emotionally.

6. We Pray Together: One of our favorite ways to end the day is by praying together. We pray for our friends, family, and for wisdom in our marriage. Though our prayers are usually not longer than a couple of minutes they have made a huge difference in helping us stay spiritually connected, as well as make us more aware of each others fears and insecurities.

7. We Celebrate Each Other: Husband and I love to make a big deal out of anniversaries, birthdays, holidays, and even smaller personal accomplishments. We are each other's biggest fans, and finding a thoughtful gift or preparing a special meal can make the biggest difference in helping us feel known, loved, and celebrated.

8. We Don't Do Marriage Alone: Our trusted friends have been incredibly helpful in showing us how to work through some of the bigger issues in our marriage. It wasn't always easy to share these struggles because of our pride and embarrassment, but soon we realized that most couples were struggling with the same things we were. We've learned that isolating only hinders us from truly dealing with our hurts, habits, and hang-ups.

9. The Greatest Gift (Self Work): We realized early on in our marriage that the greatest gift we could give each other was to know ourselves. This meant working through our family of origin junk. We all have it, but so few actually sort through it; Celebrate Recovery helped show us how. It was here that we first learned to attack our problems together, instead of attacking each other about our problems.

10. We Study One Another: Someone once told us that no matter how long you've dated your spouse, the day you get married you're essentially committing your life to a total stranger. This was great advice considering how quickly people change. To say I know Tim fully after 5 yrs of marriage would be a lie. There's so much about him that I don't know about simply because I do not ask. That is why we like to interview each other regularly. It's amazing the things you can learn about your spouse when you take the time to ask both fun and creative questions.

10b. Dude Time / Girl Time: Sometimes one of the best things we can do for our marriage is to spend time apart. It blesses me when Tim is able to take a trip with his guys because I know they meet certain needs that I can't. Similarly, Tim understands that spending a weekend with my girls is critical to my overall mental health and well being. Don't get me wrong, you guys know how madly in love I am with Mr. Loerke, but sometimes all a girl needs is an uninterrupted weekend with her besties. Guys are no different.


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W moved out 01/13
Piecing 10/13
Divorced 01/15
"Whether you worry or not has no affect on the outcome. But, moving forward, letting go, and making changes can."
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