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We all love you NLW and I would be happy to start a club for us called the Sustained Stupidity Club


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It's human nature, not stupidity. Goes against the grain for most of us to do it. Way out of our comfort zones. Believe me, I get that, NLW =)


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Quote:

but that's no excuse for sustained stupidity (otherwise known as keeping on doing what doesn't work)


I'm am borrowing this phrase. If we ever met in RL I'll buy you a beer. If you are in AA. I'll buy the guy next to you one.



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Bklyn,
The Sustained Stupidity Club- LOL

We'd need to vote in a President and VP.

All nominations gleefully received.

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Jack,

I love beer, and I'm not in AA yet, so you get the first and I'll get the next.

Where I come from we think we make one of the best beers in the world (but doesn't everyone?)

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Hi guys,

Just after a bit of advice to deal with a recurring interactional quirk that's giving me pause.

When H rings me (almost every day) he ALWAYS starts off by saying
"Sorry to bother you"

Then there is always a big gap, because I just don't know how to respond to this opening.

I know it's a little issue, but I know that a lot of others have heard this from their WASs.

So what would a DB coach say about responding, I wonder.

Just saying nothing and waiting for him to get on and say whatever it is that he wants to say doesn't work - it creates tangible awkwardness in the call from the get-go.

Any ideas?

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Is he bothering you? Maybe ask a question back to see if you can hear and validate how he's feeling, such as, "Why do you think you're bothering me?"


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Hi Ad,
He's not bothering me with these calls - but my problem is that I don't know if he's saying this because he believes he is (which is a disconnect/communication problem between us: i.e. that is NOT how I feel about talking to him) or if it's just a social nicety to smooth over the awkwardness HE feels about having to contact me (but then again, he doesn't really HAVE to contact me).

Maybe I should just say "It's OK" in a very quick, matter-of-fact way and stop trying to mind-read.

Really, the only thing that bothers me about his calls is the fact that he always starts them off with this phrase! And that it puts me on the back-foot every time.

It's probably just standard, passive-aggressive script. But then again, if so, how best to respond?

Here I go, analysing the arse out of everything again.

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i think ad's way is good. if he keeps hearing this question, he will have to come up with answers or stop. either way, you'll be better off.


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i'll join the club, few sure!!

ad's right, NLW - just ask him

the other day - i got sick and tired of h's calling but not leaving a message - it's a clear sign when he's withdrawing more. so the last time he did it i just asked outright - why don't you leave a message - i don't know if i'm meant to call you back or not. after that he's left messages

i went through a long phase of not calling back if he didn't leave a message and not saying anything (the equivalent of you not responding and letting there be an awkward break) and i don't think it worked all that well.

this other way - of being a bit direct, but not challenging , seems to be more effective.

i think now when i don't feel like pussy footing around him anymore or walking eggshells, i don't feel so fearful of being a bit more direct and straight forward.

most of this kind of stuff smacks of passive aggressive to me, and i for one am plumb sick of it

ooh do i sound ratty tonight!

good for me!!

(( )) NLW - i feel for you

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