Yes it was and it was a poor example of a H and a Christian.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
Then do it Kevin and stop flippin' complaining about it! You should be the model of contentment with the degree of certainty you espouse. So show us. Don't you want to impress upon all of us that your view of God and the Church is the right path? Perhaps inspire more of us to follow? Then do it. You hold yourself up as some kind of outstandingly devoted Catholic. So, show us how it is done. It should be absolutely fulfilling to you to exhibit the glory of God's word. And, you should certainly have no reason to drink or say stupid things to your children or your W. You should be on your game with your level of conviction. Anything less makes you look like a lazy, dogmatic, unstable and delusional man.
Understood. I am not perfect as nobody is.
Kevin
Kevin, walk the walk! No excuses. Or are you just a mere mortal like the rest of us? You have postured yourself as capable of the impossible (insisting that only one resolution is acceptable when it is out of your control) so, you better be closer to perfect than all of us here or you are going down...
Kevin, walk the walk! No excuses. Or are you just a mere mortal like the rest of us? You have postured yourself as capable of the impossible (insisting that only one resolution is acceptable when it is out of your control) so, you better be closer to perfect than all of us here or you are going down...
I am trying to do is strive to be better and explain my position. Thats all.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
I have Kev...You have to remember the context in which he was asked. The Pharisees were trying to test Jesus and asked him if it was ok to D for any reason at all...Which gets into Matthew 19:9.
When he left out the "exception clause" in Mark 10:2 it was the way the question was noted by Mark, Mark left out the for any reason at all part.
Another way of expressing the framework of these words, is that Jesus was reminding them, that without a “just-cause” for divorcing, it is (and was) not lawful (moral) to divorce and remarry without committing sin (Remember this is the same account as Matthew records).
Me:40 W: 39 T: 17 years M: 15 years S-9 D-6 D final 11/10/2009
"We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems."
Everybody calm down. This has reached the point of being unproductive. Kevin's beliefs are his beliefs, his problems are his problems, his strengths are his strengths and his kids are his kids. Kevin your fellow DBers here are frustrated with you. Fellow DBers just because we get louder, more passionate and more sarcastic doesn't mean Kevin is going to listen. Let the man figure it out for himself. Might be time for the LRT for Kev.
Cheers Coach
M22,H45,W45 S21/18D12 Retain faith that you will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties and at the same time confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.
I just sent my priest an email asking him what are my options in this regarding remarriage. He said at this time we have to assume my M was and is valid. He said later on we can look into it but I shouldn't assume I can remarry. He said right now the important thing is for me to get as many of us, I am assuming he means my family as close to God as possible.
Kevin
Me 36, W 37 M: 08/02/97 D13, D9 1st Bomb 02/08 Reconciled 04/08 2nd Bomb: 09/08 W filed for D 02/04/09 Separated 03/09 D dismissed 06/09/09 Still separated...
"Regardless of the mistakes that were made on both sides of the M and mostly were mine, it does not change the fact that a covenant M was created. You can call it judgemental all you want. But our M was valid and we do have a covenant. I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand."
I think you missed the whole point of the post. I'm not saying that your choice to fight for your M is judgemental. Your ATTITUDE towards her is judgemental.
You are the one that is not understanding. You seem to only pick out the points or hear the things you want to hear.
"I also do not pursue her anymore or contact her. I leave her alone."
Doesn't look that way to me. She kept telling you to leave her alone, but you contact her any way.
And about the "Rejoice Ministries" stuff. I've visited that site numerous times to get motivated. You only pick out the stuff that you want to hear about standing for your M.
Did you read the posts on their about showing compassion to your W? That's what my whole post was about.
I never said you were the devil. Geez dude, you need to lighten up.
If at the very least, answer this...can you treat your W with compassion? Which means, can you see things through her eyes right now? Imagine if you were her and you saw you doing and hearing all of the things you were saying to her from her point of view. Can you do that?
M-43 W-40 2D - 9 and 5
Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet a new life.
